Posted: 5 Days, 14 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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It was three years? Even more reason...
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Posted: 5 Days, 13 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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I am sure if you asked Chris Bond or Steve Rosich about Haze they would tell you his risk profile does not fit the list management model.
They are worried about his back and his knee not holding out. Ok fine but how do you justify three years for Mcphee who has missed more games than Hase through injury?
Paul Hasleby is a great Fremantle identity. Mcphee got the gold mine Hasleby got the shaft.
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Posted: 5 Days, 13 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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Mcphee wouldn't have come to the dockers if they only offered him a one or two year contract . He would have stayed at essendon and we would have missed out on a good player that has cost us nothing .
I'm pretty sure that Harves has explained the reason to Hase .
If you want to use a fair example then look at the contract that Headland got it's exactly the same one year deal .
Hase is probably just starving hungry or something .
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Posted: 5 Days, 12 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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You have a point, slammen. And to be fair, even though Hase was highest possession-getter, were the resultant disposals all effective? I think not.
I love Hase as much as anyone, but our favourite players don't go on forever. I hope he makes good this season. I hope he has it in his mind and his body to turn that midfield into a goddamn fearsome match-winning engine room. I hope that his comrades have the smarts to take his disposals and create what he wants.
At his peak he could tear teams apart with his skill and guts and performance. I think his role has changed, and to maintain his place in the team he now has to be a leader, he has to conduct the orchestra. If he can't do that, the time has come to secede to the new guard.
Sad but true.
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Posted: 5 Days, 11 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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Hase is too much of a proffesional and a team person to carry on like a pork chop about something that didn't go his way.
I reckon that he would just be glad to get through the pre-season slog uninjured - mindful that his 2008 knee injury came in the first NAB game of that season. He'll see the contract as being done and dusted and just move on to the task at hand in the same rock solid unfazed Hase way with which he fronts up to the Channel 10 cameras on a Monday night - like when following an 80 odd point thumping from St Kilda Round 4, 2009:
"all the boys are disappointed with their effort; but we've got to put that behind us now and focus on Sydney and rest assured that we'll be working hard at training to show everyone that we're a better team than what we showed on the weekend and we'll bounce back with a good peformance this week". (not verbatim)
Considering that prior to last season some people (ie Tim Goossage) reckoned the knee re-con would end his career, I think he performed above expectations, though, like all our core midfielders because of the increasing toll throughout the season caused by lack of rotation options there were times in that area where he looked slow and tired.
He'd probably like to play in finals again before his career ends. Having also missed the 2006 campaign through injury he probably has that feeling that time is running out for him, and that might be playing on his mind a bit.
Could be handy up forward for reasons previously mentioned, and I'm sure he'd have the knowledge to play that role, though probably not the speed to apply defensive pressure, and we'd have to be winning it in the midfield without him to get it there.
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Posted: 4 Days, 14 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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I think that Hase has to be used as pinch hitter as his best days are behind him in terms of leg speed - certainly the first 5 metres anyway - and that's where he gets caught.
We need to use his footy brain to feed the young guns and that means the half back line. We have a great forward line already - Maine, Bally, Pav, Headland,etc....
One thing is for sure -it's going to be tough getting into the 22 this season!!
BRING IT ON !!
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Posted: 4 Days, 14 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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Has pre-season disease zapped everyones brain? The condition that seems to make people forget whether someone is any good or not?
If this debate is about whether Hase spends the time that he isn't racking up huge contested possessions & dishing them off to hard running midfielders with pin point provision in the forward line rather than on the pine, then count me in.
But I think this debate has somehow gone on to the "Hase isn't what he used to be so let's hide him somewhere" line of thinking.
Hase is a dead set gun. We don't have too many of them, & I didn't see any indication last season that he has lost too much of his talent. When I am playing with the magnetic board thingy, I put 'Haselby' in the centre square first & then think about what pimply faced 12 year old 'might be goods' I can position around him.
Give me an 'is good' over a 'might be good' any day...
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Posted: 4 Days, 2 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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I'm with WD on this one.
Even if Hase only plays 60-70% of game time it'll be in the engine room feeding runners. If he does drift forward there's every chance he'll out mark someone taller, stronger, faster, and better looking. Why? Because he can actually play football.
Harvey gave him a run with role last year v Ess and he smothered Watson like no-one had all year.
I do love the kids but I love Hase more.
I will be GUTTED if come round 1 2011 - Hase is winning midfield ball and feeding Pav at FF on the Gold Coast.
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Posted: 4 Days, 2 Hours ago
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Hase is good when he drifts forward because he has a strong overhead mark and most of midfields get nervous in that defensive situation.
Put a half decent, medium sized backman on him and he would struggle.
Why would you move him from the middle? Last year and the countless years before that have not been a fluke.
"Dead set gun"
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Posted: 4 Days, 2 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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I admire Hase like the rest of you, but what is consistent with this discussion (and many others on this site) is the constant juggling around of players to find a forward line. The club has done the same - moving Grover, Johno, McPharlap and others up there to 'give it a go' - give Hase a go in the forward 50? Why not, but this isn't the answer to a problem that has plagued the side since Jeff was sacked.
Like any successful team we need goals - lots of them, many more than we've produced in the past couple of seasons. We draft goal kickers (Houghton, Buckets, Sibo, Mike, Bally) but rarely do we see them (except a healthy Bally). Putting Hase up there, in my opinion, just keeps the others out.
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Posted: 4 Days, 2 Hours ago
Re:Hase
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You rarely see them because they rarely kick enough goals. Unless someone is as good as Pavlich, they can't survive as a permanent forward. Even he needs to run up the ground regularly to keep himself in the game.
A good forward line is like The Love Boat. You need your regulars to play off of. You need Pavlich and maybe Ballantyne and Mayne running about there to give the place some structure but then you need guest stars to liven the place up every week and make it less predictable.
Hasleby is perfect guest star material. I'd bring him back for a few episodes but he'd grow stale if you left him there too many weeks in a row.
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Posted: 4 Days, 1 Hour ago
Re:Hase
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Pavlich = Captain Stubing? Maybe.
Ballantyne = Gopher? Definitely.
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