Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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allison, the insanity I'm talking about is people not renewing their memberships just because of the new jumper and logo, that to me, is not being a true supporter of the team. I will stick to my team through thick and thin, regardless of what anyone does.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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Dockerlady do you know something we dont know? How many people haven't renewed? I know I, and a few other I know,haven't yet.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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Dockerlady I am typing this with my head in my hands.. slightly difficult. It is about why members are taking the route you suggest, that is worthy of listening too.
I can't run on the field for Freo, I can buy a membership which also for me means I adhere to the principals of the Club in their dealings on the field and off. If I take a different viewpoint I at least expect they are interested and are also curious about why, perhaps we are just trying to educate them.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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Dockerlady et al - I think you've missed the point here. Everyone is going to have their opinion about the new and old jumpers. But that is really a side issue - the main thing here is that they were changed without due consultation. OK, so you like the new jumpers - great for you. But when you talk about embracing the club etc. ask yourself a few questions:
Did you embrace the Gilbert/Mcleod fiasco?
Did you embrace 4 min deadline miss on Francis so he could sit on the sidelines for a year and get fat?
Did you embrace the financial irresponsibility that put us in the red for years?
I could go on ...
The point is, I love the club, and I too would support them if they wore pink tutus, but like any high performing organisation, mistakes and abuses of power have to be recognised, and the people who made them held accountable. Blind belief in any management or elite is just plain irresponsible. The fact that we have a thinking, voting membership is what separates us from the guys up the road. It's because of that lack of direct accountability that people like Nesbutt can prosper and flourish despite overseeing a club during some of the most sordid chapters in the history of the AFL.
No-one's questioning your commitment to the team - just use your brain and your vote to ensure that we (the members) retain the power to influence decisions of this nature in the future. Please.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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Bugger Pavlich, Ballantyne and Barlow. They're the hired help, and the fact they're good at it is beside the point.
The new jumper is modern, obviously, but it's not as modern as the new jumper to come.
Embrace the future? OK, kill your next-door neighbour and take his house. It's the future! How more moronic could a slogan get?
The fan base at Dockerland is the only thing that's Freo about Freo. Without it, Freo might as well be Kentucky Fried Chicken (did they really think we'd forget?) at Innaloo.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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So we should get over it, but it's ok for you to have held a grudge against the jersey for 16 years?
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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And again.
Another person who needs to look up professional in a dictionary. You may claim that the new jumper is more aesthetically pleasing to you but please dont use words that do not apply.
Dont confuse aesthetically pleasing with professional. Professional applies to the actions of team members, administration and even the board. Although the current board members have displayed very little professionalism in the dealings with members.
'Professional' is the current buzzword put out by the greeves and clearly is being used as a smokescreen. If you like the absence of red and green that is a matter of personal choice. The absence of colours does not imply, even remotely, any degree of professionalism.
So far, you have yet to put up any coherent argument in support of your statements. Try doing that instead of trotting out the party line.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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I gave MY personal opinion, I don't have to prove anything to anyone. My original post was regarding so called "supporters" of the club, chosing NOT TO RENEW their membership because of the change of jumper and logo or because they felt they weren't informed about it. I knew it was coming, as with nearly everything these days, NOTHING IS PERMANENT.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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Dockerlady, as we all know we can all come on here and post our thoughts. My thought is how do we know youre not one of the paid employees of the club who I got told sit's on facebook and other internet sites? Would not suprise me if there was a "paid" employee posting on here. There is a few freshnew boldies around...
I would love us to have 50,000 members and all of us to be paid up right now, for 2011. But Jeezars H Crikeys, whether we like, love the old new, freshbold or whatever jumper, its just disgraceful how whoever the decision makers are, did what they have done...(pause for deep breath).
Until this debacle, as Wizfan referred to, our free thinking as supporters made us so much different from that mob and supporters from up the road. As I wrote earlier this morning on this thread, If something gets fixed we all may come out stronger in the end.
On another note, I do know two people that have paid up for next year. There's a hell of a lot more wondering what they gonna do.
By the sound of it we all know a few people umming and aghhing.
Fix it all and most of us will pay up happily!!!!
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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"professional" is a euphemism that is being trotted out by the likes of Kate Grieve, who has clearly demonstrated here that she wants to be called steve.
It's saying they think there was something wrong with the previous colours, that they were daggy, gay, ridiculed - derided was the actual word steves used. That has nothing to do with being professional; it's simply saying 'We didn't like it so we changed it'.
If steves are so worried what other supporters thought about our kit, then they are the ones demonstrating a complete lack of professionalism.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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No, I am not some spy from the "corporation" and that question made me laugh out loud. I have been a Dockerland member for quite a few years, but seldom post, just read. Have been reading all the posts since the changes, and just felt like stating MY opinion on it all for a change. And I have renewed my membership, and looking forward to the start of the 2011 season, which I am sure will be an absolute beauty.
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Posted: 4 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Re:Get Over It
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Dockerlady, so far, your personal opinion seems to be no more than the corporate line. You have used the correct corporate buzzwords, 'professional' (out of meaningful context) and referred to anyone who doesnt sheepishly follow the line dictated by the greeves as 'so-called' supporters.
A 'so-called' supporters in my view is one who contributes to the divisions within the supporters base as you've done very nicely. The greeves would be proud of you.
You have ignored every comment put up and proceeded to condemn those who have stated their unhappiness with the process undertaken by the current board. I'm pleased you will toe the party line without any real thought but dont put the rest of us in the same sheep category.
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