Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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Sorry Hyphen - obviously not clear enough in my post.
My concern was with the newfreshbolders telling me how my feelings were shallow. As I was close to wishing bodily harm to the steves this peeves me off no end.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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Sim of course I have and I will attend the meeting. We ARE a passionate lot here. Fremantle too has a passionate history from its working and union origins to its protest movements - even electing a dud green was an act of defiance. If people just sat back and said 'oh gee guys and gals a decision has been made - we better just accept the inevitable' we'd be a lot poorer for the effort. But as that old saying goes - if you don't fight, you lose. And as anyone who knows me thats not my style.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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the supporters/members aren't divided - we just disagree. thats what is good about democracy in general, but this wasn't a democratic decision. if you want to change the flag of a country, you don't have a parliamentary debate, you have a referendum.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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Hypen, I don't think it's that people feel a greater connection to the club, it's just a different connection.
I had thought people who had a geographical connection to Freo were mainly against the changes, but I'm no longer sure.
For me, there's some politics involved in the change that I strongly disagree with so I'd never thought of a possibility of liking the changes (even if they weren't hideous). I'd suspect people's general political views would not be inseparable from how they feel about this decision. I'm not opening that can, but I haven't been surprised as to who has come out in support or against the changes.
But that's just difference.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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I'm not too keen on pigeonholing supporter groups either, based on their liking of the changes or not, or how long they've been a supporter, or whether they're even a member. Not everyone can afford to be a member, and nor may it be useful for them to have a seat.
For me, I can only attend a few games a year, so buying a seat for 11 games makes no sense for me. I did buy one of the 3 game memberships as I could attend the games, and I wanted to support the club. Regardless, I still support the team part of the club, but the current version of the 'club' I'm not so keen on supporting by buying a membership or merchandise (although I'll fight to restore it to what it should be) - that's why others aren't renewing, whose passion can still not be questioned.
If you go and support the mob up the road, though, that's a whole different story. Did somebody say bandwagon?
notpav - the supporters are divided - you can see that in the insults being slung about. And for this we can thank the Steves.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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It's all very Carlton/Liberal Party President John Elliot if you ask me purple33.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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I think purple33 and Hyphen might be onto something with the political theorem. It holds true of the lefties I know (inlcuding me) who hate the changes.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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Voltaire, hate to rain on your parade but I'm not a lefty by any means and I hate what the greeves have done to our club.
It looks like I'll still be on a flight from Sydney when the Annual Members Meeting is on so I am relying on you all to fight for our club. Whether you like the changes or not, the way this was done has created divisions within the club and the club must address and correct this. The feedback I've had from one of the steves shows he holds us in complete contempt.
Frankly, the sooner they are removed the better. Let's get back to being Freo nuts, the way we always have been. While we're at it, let's remove sons of the corporate stooges fomenting the divisions.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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I think Rocky333 has it.
Are we all, regardless of belief, writing and reponding in the hope that "Steve" or some other archangel is actually taking notice of what is said? Or are we simply getting it off our chest - with our opinion to finally dissolve in the vacuum of internet space?
We all know that the financial membership have little influence on club policy. After all, the board members we elect are a minority. The cards are stacked against the opinions of the membership despite that we are repeatedly touted as fundamental to the Club's existence.
But all said and done - it is reassuring to consider that someone, somewhere, might be listening.......?
I think that NASA said something similar recently?
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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Wrong Shorty - what we all know is that the membership is the only thing that made the Fremantle Football Club noticeable. Over the past 5 (or so) years we have been in the top 5 (or so) clubs in the AwFL because of the membership - no other reason.
Which makes it utterly stupid for a paid employee (Steve) to belittle the membership - or a substantial portion of it - to disenfranchise them (us). Full stop.
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Posted: 4 Weeks ago
Re:Get Over It
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Look, (if I understand the process) the only way to hold the Steve's accountable is to hold the board accountable -
The board members, like all political animals, are intent on survival. So we sacrifice a member - regardless of their outlook or other attributes - every time they stand for re-election. Give 'em the old heave ho! Feck them off! Send a clear message to any board member that we will not re-elect anyone who was responsible for this process until the matter is addressed in a democratic and responsible manner.
Sure, this might take a while - we only get a crack at them one or two at a time - but can you maintain the rage? I think I can ...
Strong and direct member action coupled with a vocal and public display at the meeting are the only options if we want this matter addressed, or if we want to ensure this never happens again.
And I would say to those who like the jumper - if you have any sense of decency, you will support a review of the decision with an appropriate level of member consultation, because we may well still end up with the chevrons. If it really was such a good idea, then surely a fair process will arrive at the same conclusion, and prove that those of us complaining are just a troublemaking minority.
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Posted: 3 Weeks, 6 Days ago
Re:Get Over It
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was just watching a replay between freo and hawthorn,about 3.58 to go in the first quarter the camera panned into the crowd and lo and behold there was some bloke in the new jumper ,no bulls**t
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