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TOPIC: Team of the Week
HillFanHouse Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
Re:Team of the Week
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Ok, so ARUSBN what you are saying is that because Naitanui did a few good little magic tricks in glimpses of the second quarter, he deserves the spot as no.1 ruckman for the round because he usually does sweet eff all every other week, hence what you refer to as "expectations".

I would like to point out the flaw in you saying that ARUSBN. On a larger scale of your argument you are saying that because someone played the best game of all time who usually plays like a dead fish, they should win the Brownlow and not someone who played consistantly well for the whole season. Obviously this is not the same scenario, but its the same point that you are trying to make, just on a smaller scale.

Back in that legendary 2005 Grand Final of which all Freo supporters will treasure until the day of their deaths, Leo Barry saved the game for Sydney with that fantastic match-saving mark, and therefore won the game as you say Naitanui did on fridy night. But did he get the Norm Smith? No.

Sandilands was the most dominant ruckman in a very high class game of footy against the best defensive midfield in the comp. Naitanui was good for a couple of minutes in a game that had the standards of a pre-primary kick to kick game at recess. The guy has talent, he looks different, he plays for West Coast, enough to get the media in Perth pleasuring themselves. But something he lacks is a football brain... .now I could be wrong, but I think it might be important.
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guy smiley Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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Happens to all of us from time to time... you arrive too late to be part of a Dockerland Smackdown and can only marvel in hindsight, at the blind obstinate stupidity allowed to roam the world... and access the internet.
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blockerhall Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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I'm just going to climb back in to this argument in a small way, I got an email from Steven Baker's cousin yesterday, whom as you might expect is a Saint's supporter, he acknowledged Fremantle was pretty good, and Sandilands- 'so good'. No mention of any other player.

Ask Saints supporters who was the best Fremantle player this weekend. Think there will be a fair bit of support for 211. Want to count those contested possesions again?

The hype over Notaclui is unsustainable, the kid (and don't get me wrong, he can play) is currently attributed with everything from inventing the handpass to curing Polio. E dina. But for perspective, the class 'game-breaking' flashy things he did on the weekend were probably on a par with the quantity of sublime things that Hill did on the weekend. Hell, I remember Longmuir doing the same as Notaclui regularly (*edit- at his peak) without this hype.

But that is where the comparisons end, because the media machine have their story, and many people are being sucked along for the ride. Don't be one of them.
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Wizfan Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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There's a difference between class and rampant youthful enthusiasm.

Class involves seemingly effortless calculation. Enthusiasm, happy accidents.

Brennan's classy. You may say he's lazy; you may say he's lairy. But he's undeniably classy.

UnCo's enthusiastic.
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HillFanHouse Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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I know this obvious West Coast supporter is accusing us all of being "one eyed" blah blah blah, but I think any civilized person that watched the game would say Cox had the better of him in every aspect of the game. EXCEPT for the stupidest haircut part of the game, which is a massive part of the Eagles game plan I think...
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guy smiley Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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Let's just get it out there Blocker, and be done with it..

the hype, the excitement, the fawning sycophancy over the handful of impressive acts the kid achieves each week are nothing less than patronising and racist.

He's athletic, in that for a big guy he can move well, and he's managed a few flukey ball handling moments... if he had white skin they'd be demanding he show some consistency and nodding sagely about stamina and the prolonged development of big men.

Or, to boil it down even further, in the immortal words of Boris, he's indigenous somewhere. Or something.
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Wizfan Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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(Sorry, quick qualification: West Coast have always used race for marketing purposes. Think Chris Lewis. Rah, rah: best player in the comp. We're multicultural. Then think Chris Lewis going bad: boo, boo. Filthy b****. Drop him back to Claremont.

UnCo's useful to them at the moment. Black dude doing magic. Well, compared to Swift it's magic. See, we're multicultural. He's indigenous ... from somewhere. Priddis is probably indigenous from somewhere too. And so is Masten. And Shuey. And we're actually a European soccer club playing Aussie Rules on our way to a flag before 2013 because we're not prepared to compromise, like other clubs we won't name, and aim to finish eighth. Like we used to do. For about 20 yrs in a row. But hopefully no one will remember that, and so we can just say what we like.

Which is that NikNat's magic ...)
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ARUSBN Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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Wizfan Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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I don't think anyone's got it in for Niknat on here. I think we're all just a bit cynical when it comes to media spin, especially when it's spun in favour of West Coast (as it all too often is).

If you taught the kid at school, then it's understandable that you're strongly defensive of him. Because he really does seem like an OK bloke.

But he also seems like a totally unextraordinary footballer who just happens to have a marketable image, one that the mob up the road will exploit to their advantage and most definitely not to his. The more they exploit it to their advantage, the more NikNat will recede into oblivion.

He'll be flavour of the month for 15 mins. In a year, he'll be back playing for the Ducks.

Pity, because in another team (well, maybe not Essendon or Richmond) he could have been someone.

But the point is that no one's having a go at NikNat at a personal level. If football requires you to know, say, ten things, then I reckon Niknat knows two of them at best. With West Coast, he'll be very lucky to make it to three.

But all of that aside: Sandi's game creamed NikNat's on the weekend.

You must know it.
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dddocker Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
Re:Team of the Week
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Here's my take on this controversial issue:

NN played a good but inconsistent game embellished by a couple of eye-catching (spectacular) plays which helped his cause. He was however significantly subdued by Paddy Ryder when PR was rucking against him because Ryder can also jump and run.

AS played a good and consistent game both in the ruck and around the ground. AS was not beaten in the ruck at anytime.

What NN has in his game is the occassional spectacular play that people remember eventhough he tends at this stage not to be consistently influential around the field. His game depends on the flashy moment rather than hard gut running to position. His reading of the game around the ground is still B grade. However he has the talent to improve on this.

The Derby will be interesting maybe definitive when they confront one another.
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shane Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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So at the end of the day, the one eyed view point was coming from...his school teacher.
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Stevedore Posted: 1 Week, 2 Days ago
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Can we please not sink to the level of calling each other Eagles supporters? Lowers the tone.
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