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TOPIC: Umpires

cletus Umpires 4 weeks 2 days ago #15

cletus
Seems to be a real good way to get the ball to centre wing boundary line, for a throw in.

Its a kick in, play on or not, and it should have to come off someone else before its deemed a throw in.

How that can be got away with and , the several other 'less intended' deliberate OOB be paid, I'll never know....
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peaking1 Umpires 4 weeks 2 days ago #16

peaking1
Mushy what you want is a Review, of the review system. Then we’ll be getting somewhere.
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Tragic Umpires 4 weeks 1 day ago #17

Tragic
I think the confusion relates to the rules and rule changes and what applies in what scenario,
there is the old deliberate out bounds rule which has been subsequently changed to insufficient intent.
The rule is covered by Law 18.10(b) in the 2021 version of the Laws of Australian Football. The official wording of the law is:[1]
18.10 A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player who:...

(b) Kicks, Handballs or forces the football over the Boundary Line and does not demonstrate sufficient intent to keep the football in play
In practice, most free kicks under the rule come in one of two situations: either when a player puts the ball directly out of bounds to relieve a high pressure situation; or when a player gains territory from a longer disposal which goes out of bounds without any teammate having a reasonable chance of possessing it.

in 2018 a new rule was introduced. A player will be penalised with a free kick if they kick or handball the ball over the boundary line without it being touched by an opposition player (Last Disposal Out of Bounds Rule)
it was amended in 2019. The Last Disposal Out of Bounds Rule will now only operate between the 50m arcs.

So I think the scenario is, that by playing on from the 10m square, the player is now able to clear the 50m arc with his kick. In that scenario the free kick is only awarded under the standard interpretation of "insufficient intent", if the ball goes out.

But I am not an umpire.
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SaltyDog Umpires 4 weeks 1 day ago #18

SaltyDog
Cletus, I agree that this rule needs to be sorted. In a game that’s going down to the wire the fullback can just kick for touch to chew up precious seconds. It should therefore be a rule that if the kick-in ball goes out without being touched, it should automatically be called deliberate.
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Purple Shades Re:Umpires 4 weeks 1 day ago #19

Purple Shades
I am watching the replay and have just watched this again.

Matty Johnson was the only player on the field to through his arms out to the umpire for a free kick and not one commentator even discussed it.

Doesn’t make it right, but only one person thought it should have been a kick of the 36 players on the field and four commentators.
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Mushroom Re:Umpires 3 weeks 6 days ago #20

Mushroom
So, looks like the spud known as McKay and Charlie Coleman Curnow will kick 7 each this week, Cripps gets four free kicks for elbowing Serong in the throat and and Freo go down like try-hards.


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Stacksonthemill Re:Umpires 3 weeks 6 days ago #21

Stacksonthemill
Mushy, you're turning into a toadstool!
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Raglan Matt Umpires 3 weeks 6 days ago #22

Raglan Matt
On a brighter not, it looks like that this year the eagles are only getting a quarter of the free kicks they have in the past. The loss of Dean (Margetts that is) is biting hard now.
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Mushroom Umpires 3 weeks 6 days ago #23

Mushroom
It's the League's way of justifying a stance that free kicks don't influence the result

on average
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Mushroom Umpires 3 weeks 5 days ago #24

Mushroom
average free kick differential of top 8 teams, -2

(which actually puts Cardboardlton 26 above average, more than 8 per game)
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hypen Umpires 3 weeks 5 days ago #25

hypen
90% of free kicks are holding the ball or too high, would we agree with that?
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jezzaargh Umpires 3 weeks 5 days ago #26

jezzaargh
no, we would not.
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shane Umpires 3 weeks 5 days ago #27

shane
Yeah, nah. I wouldn't agree with that.
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hypen Umpires 3 weeks 5 days ago #28

hypen
Yeah well you'd think I'd have learnt by now.
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