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moptop Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 4 weeks ago #29

moptop
You can take the boy out of law school...
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rogerrocks Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 4 weeks ago #30

rogerrocks
I just saw that Powell-Pepper got 4 weeks, and I reckon he had less chance than Maynard of avoiding that collision.
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Blue1red1 Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 4 weeks ago #31

Blue1red1
Nah, I have to Call that out. SPP knew what he was doing, and that was lazy at best excuse, Reckless with intent - That could have been avoided IMO. I recon if he had his time over, he might have made a better choice. SPP is better than that.
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hypen Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #32

hypen
What has Webster done wrong exactly? He realises he is late on the hit but can't pull out of it cause he's airborne. He tries to protect himself which he has a right to do.

There's no malice whatsoever.
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Tragic Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #33

Tragic
He's executed the bump too soon in the season. The Maynard scale of culpability does not apply in March.
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hypen Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #34

hypen
I just hope that Collingwood bogan puts his job on the line for this one too. He's one passionate dude, Michael Christian.
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Morgan Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #35

Morgan
If you were looking for an explanation Hypen as to the difference, instead of making a bad faith argument, it would be that for a decade the AFL has said if you elect to bump and hit a player high you will be suspended. They even wrote it into the rules.

No-one has ever said if you elect to jump into the air to effect a smother and hit someone high on the way down you’ll be suspended.
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Tragic Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #36

Tragic
bump definition
You are saying that intending to smother, resulting in a bump is different to intending to bump, resulting in a bump.
I would argue that the bump is foreseeable in both circumstances making the distinction spurious.
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hypen Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #37

hypen
Don't argue, Tragic. It won't fix Brayshaw's brain. Would be in bad faith to argue now.

Of all the hills to die on, Michael Christian the MRO chose this hill. A bloke who played football with Darren Millane and Doug Barwick in the eighties.

This concussion plague will close the game down if we don't get the right people in the right roles.
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Morgan Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #38

Morgan
In the AFL not all contact is a bump. It's a bit weird to use a web definition when the AFL has clearly spelled this out in its rules.

Use, for example, the AFL's definition of rough contact.

The AFL Regulations provide that a Player will be guilty of Rough Conduct where in the bumping of an opponent (whether reasonably or unreasonably) the Player causes forceful contact to be made with any part of his body to an opponent’s head or neck. Unless Intentional, such conduct will be deemed to be Careless, unless:
» The Player was contesting the ball and it was reasonable for the Player to contest the ball in that way; or
» The forceful contact to the opponent’s head or neck was caused by circumstances outside the control of the Player which could not be reasonably foreseen.

So, the AFL has a very clear carve-out for contact when you're contesting the ball.

Maynard starts by contesting the ball. I don't think anyone has argued that his first action was to affect the ball. The question in his case is what duty he owes after he has done that. The rules are pretty grey on that part, but that's why he got off. But he got off because the rules say that if you're contesting the ball then it's not careless.

Webster was not contesting the ball. He deliberately tried to bump when the rules very clearly say that if you bump and hit a guy you get rubbed out.

The two incidents have nothing to do with each other.
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hypen Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #39

hypen
He smashed into him cause he left the ground and couldn't control himself smashing into him.

I don't care if he was trying to re-unite Morrissey and Johnny Marr before this occurred. The MRO shouldn't have either.

I understand all the text, Morgan. I understand you may technically be correct. My original point was not to put a bad faith argument on the table but to get people who were so adamant that Maynard get off but are so appalled by Websters action to think in some kind of way they are not as far apart as you think. Not when you consider the consequences of their actions.

Reckless bumps, reckless airborne smothers propelled at the player. When the outcome is CTE who gives a toss about the text.

Unduly rough play, 4 weeks Maynard and sack the bogan.
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Tragic Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #40

Tragic
To dismiss a link to an accepted dictionary (a book or electronic resource that lists the words of a language (typically in alphabetical order) and gives their meaning, or gives the equivalent words in a different language, often also providing information about pronunciation, origin, and usage:) as a web definition is stretching it.
To then discuss the AFL rule on reckless conduct as somehow supporting your argument stretches commonsense even further.
The reason why the two instances are compared is that they were both examples of players risking the well being on an opponent, by performing an unreasonable action.

Maybe a different link will assist you in understanding the genesis of the argument.
AFL position statement on concussion

The Australian Football League (AFL) places paramount importance on the health and safety of all individuals involved in the sport. This commitment extends from elite players to community and junior levels. Here are key aspects of the AFL’s position on patient safety:

Vision and Mission:
Vision: The AFL aims to be a global leader in safeguarding past, present, and future players from health risks associated with sport-related concussion.
Mission: The AFL strives to reduce the incidence of sport-related concussion in Australian Football and manage the associated health and safety risks. This mission involves enhancing prevention measures, timely detection, evidence-based recovery, and support at all levels of the game1.
Understanding Concussion:
Definition: Concussion is an injury to the brain resulting from a direct blow to the head or a jolt following body impact (such as whiplash).
Signs and Symptoms: Recognizing concussion signs and symptoms is crucial. Players displaying these signs should be immediately removed from the match or training session for assessment.
Red Flags: If certain “red flags” are present (such as severe headache, loss of consciousness, or neck pain), an ambulance should be called, and the player referred to the hospital. Otherwise, the player should be assessed by a medical doctor as soon as possible1.
Assessment and Recovery:
Assessment: Players (or parents) should provide information from the AFL-approved HeadCheck app to the medical doctor. This assists in evaluating the player’s condition.
Return to Play: Clubs and players should follow the advice provided by the medical doctor, guided by the AFL’s concussion return to play guidelines1.
In summary, the AFL is committed to proactive measures, education, and player well-being to ensure a safer sporting environment for all participants
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Morgan Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #41

Morgan
Tragic, my point is that in footy there is a pretty commonly understood meaning to 'bump' as an action. You are are, or at least were, taught how to bump. The dictionary definition the word bump means the same as collision. In footy they mean different things, and the AFL has codified them differently. To use your dictionary definition of 'a sudden forceful blow, impact, or jolt' could apply to someone putting their knee into someone's back in a marking contest. That is not a bump, despite it meeting your preferred definition.

There is an element of risk when you play any sport, including - and perhaps especially - AFL. If you say only the consequences matter, regardless of whether a player was trying to win the ball is just a nonsense. Genuine and reasonable attempts to win the ball have to be protected, otherwise you might as well pack the whole thing up.

Now, you might argue that Maynard's attempt to win the ball was reckless or careless (or if your Raggy that it was just a ruse to take our Brayshaw), but as of 2023 that's not what the rules say. The AFL has to be very careful about outlawing genuine attempts to win the footy. It seems trite to even say that.

Webster's hit was just an awful act that's been been highlighted and legislated out of the game for ages. Everyone agrees. But I don't think you can say 'well, if you're outraged about that why aren't you outraged about Maynard' without expecting some pushback.

You're trying to create this view that unless you think all head-high contact sees players rubbed out for months then you don't care about player welfare. I don't think that sort of rhetoric serves anyone.

The AFL is rightly focusing on the biggest causes of concussion, starting with bumps (the action not the consequence), then late spoils, then dangerous tackles. Spoils are a blip on the radar. The real question is marking contests. Are we going to see players who genuinely attempt marks that lead to concussion rubbed out. Isn't a concussion a foreseeable result of two players running for the same ball, let alone a knee in the back of the head?
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Tragic Brayshaw Forced To Retire 1 month 3 weeks ago #42

Tragic
over on Australian Football International
they have defined a bump.

BUMPING
A player can legally bump an opponent when the ball is within five metres.
Lean towards the opponent, pushing hard from the foot furthest from the opponent.
The arm is bent, with the elbow tucked into the side.
Make contact with the shoulder and upper arm – preferably when an opponent is settled on one foot, so he is easier to unbalance.
The bumping player should keep his feet on the ground at all times. Only bump when an opponent does not have the ball. If he does have the ball – apply a tackle.
Tip: To get the correct ‘feel’ of the bump, gently bump into a teammate and have him bump into you at the same time. This is usually done in the pre-game warm-up.

I think Maynard and Webster both performed illegal bumps. Maynard, had he executed his actions correctly could have minimised impact. ie insufficient force to justify a reportable offence.
If the AFL is serious about protecting players, the actions a player makes while taking a mark will be more scrutinised in future. Indeed, Toby Greene has had his (dangerous) actions in taking a mark previously scrutinised.
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