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Morgan Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #29

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That Sumich/Hagdorn article is an archetype of everything they have written all year. If they just dialled it back a bit there might be some interesting points, but instead they merely make some big (and most likely flawed) assumptions, treat them as fact, and then bash the club based on where they fall short based on those assumptions.

So, let’s briefly go through those assumptions one by one.

I. Darcy is injury prone. Well, he’s averaged 19 games a season for the last three years, which is fine. He’s frequently hurt, but still drags his body around most games, and it’s not like athleticism is his key attribute. I reckon as he gets older and stronger as a ruckman he’ll actually build resilience rather than lose it.

II. Darcy would have accepted a three-year deal. Well, it was Sumich/Hagdorn that was saying all year what a flight risk he was, so which is it? One of the best aspects of the long-term deal is that it acts like a trade hedge, so that if he wants to go home, or it doesn’t work out with the Darcy/Jackson pairing, whichever clubs want him will have to trade in contemplation of him being under contract, which as we’ve seen has real value in the trade return. This point is just pure trolling by Sumich.

III. They are paying Darcy $1 million per season. Darcy is very good, and that seems like a lot of money, but very little about what Sumich/Hagdorn have written has been turned out to be true, so bashing the club over a salary that is probably guess-work seems a bit cheap.

IV. Jackson is the number 1 ruckman and Darcy will struggle for ruck minutes. I don’t think this is true at all, and it doesn’t seem consistent with the messaging from the club. It’s entirely possible Jackson will be a more effective ruckman in bursts, especially in the centre bounces, but I reckon Jackson will be used much more around the ground, in the forward line, and then as a strike weapon in burst in the ruck. I reckon Darcy will average something like 70-80% ruck time, which isn’t much different to when someone like Meek was backing him up. If it really doesn’t work, we’re better off having Darcy on a longer contract for trade purposes.

V. The AFL is getting too quick for Darcy. Well, that could happen, but people have been saying that about ruckmen for decades, and the last AFL GF featured Mason Cox and Oscar McInerney as ruckmen, so it clearly hasn’t happened yet.

VI. Darcy at age 31 will be as banged up as Fyfe at age 32. This is just a weird comparison, and really just an opportunity to bag Fyfe and the club and fill column inches. Big ruckmen are often at their peak at age 31. Max Gawn is 31 now, and Sandi was all Australian when he was 31.

It’s just such lazy writing.
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Raglan Matt Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #30

Raglan Matt
Re point iv), you make a good point with your last sentence, Morgan.
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Matebe Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #31

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Anybody else believe The West are taking significantly unnecessary risk to their readership by publishing columns by Peter Sumich?
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blockerhall Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #32

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I know this will be philosophically worse than arguing with a plank of wood, but I would like to discuss the premise of the Sumich article, ostensibly this: "...Jackson should lead Fremantle’s ruck and on-ball division for the next decade, leaving severe uncertainty on just where Darcy fits into a Dockers best starting line-up..."

Put simply, how about No he should not- No, no uncertainty at all, and ...hmm, how about 'First' Ruck?

Rucking Jackson fulltime is a waste of talent, and potentially breaks him against the other teams' ruckmen. Then what have we achieved? Darcy is the foundation of our build, he is smart at bouncedown and stoppages, in both where and when he commits his body, and getting the ball to advantage. Big Swaggy is our most influential player, when he is on song he is dominant. Have a look at our come from behind win in gather round this year, this is the blueprint for these two guys, Darcy just imposing himself on contests around the ground after half time, and Jackson kicking a couple of clutch goals and having multiple significant score involvements. The flexibility to also change it up with these two young talents is a point of difference for us and takes a fair bit of planning for oppositions to counter pre-game, and then again on match day.

Darcy being injury-prone is a bit disingenuous. He's actually been really durable, capable of playing with those leg/knee issues and I think we put the cue in the rack with him late last season when things didn't go our way. Since Sandilands retired at the end of 2019, Darcy has played 72 of 89 possible games, not bad for a young big guy in really the most physically impactful role in AFL. Yes Jackson shone in a few of those last games without him, but that speaks more to the talent of Jackson than anything else.

TL;DR- Suma is dumb. If we didn't have Darcy and broke Jackson against bigger bodies rucking fulltime, we would waste the talent in this squad and a tilt at the biggest prize.
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Raglan Matt Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #33

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And, BH, be lambasted and ridiculed by those self same experts for doing so.
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Davo Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #34

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I agree Sumich is sad, bitter, etc. but I can't help thinking he didn't write most of it. Much of that's been written before.

That article (like many previously) sounds like he's getting paid for Worst hacks to ghost-write negative crap about Freo players under his name. Or perhaps a combination?

What's the worst (pardon the pun) transgression - writing bullshit or getting paid for someone else to write bullshit under your name?
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Eggy Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #35

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I think Big Swag should apologise for running over Sumichs cat so he can move on unlike the Big Swag who's is not moving on.
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Quasimodo Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #36

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If Sumich left the West and joined Sky at night as a right wing leaning sports opinion maker alongside Bolt and Credlin both organisations IQs would increase.

Opinion and hyperbole dressed as fact. Sumich would fit in well.
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Blue1red1 Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #37

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Why are so many people reading the Worst?
Stop it - you will go blind all of you! Go watch the cricket and finish the job off you Muppets.
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fradonjan Darcy signs deal 4 months 2 weeks ago #38

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Blue1red1,sorry sumas antics are far more entertaining than one of the most boring so called cricket entertainment options, this from someone who breathed and loved and played a lot of cricket many many years ago.I cannot watch one over when it's any form of cricket,though i did watch highlights of Maxwell's and Marshies efforts ,but not much of that .
Corp here's Webster's version of Who or whom .I won't put all of it here ,but if you really wanted too you could Google it though i doubt you would very much .Enjoy.
Trust your instincts. The choice between who and whom can sometimes be confusing, and this has always been the case. But English is extremely flexible, and actual usage doesn’t always follow the strict rules of grammar. Our ears are our guides, and there are many constructions (like "Whom did you speak to?" vs. "Who did you speak to?") in which whom may be technically correct but still feel fussy or unnatural. In these cases, it is perfectly standard to use who
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Tragic Darcy signs deal 4 months 1 week ago #39

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I thought James Joyce's Ulysses was a difficult read.
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fradonjan Darcy signs deal 4 months 1 week ago #40

fradonjan
Tragic,that's why i only referred to one paragraph !
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number 2 Darcy signs deal 4 months 1 week ago #41

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Ulysses is a doddle.

There is a book club in the US that took 28 years to read Finnigan's Wake.
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Detox Darcy signs deal 4 months 1 week ago #42

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I have heard Sumich has a ghost writer for most of his material too.. I agree with pretty everything Morgan has said.. The main thing is if we want to trade him down the track we will get something good for him especially if he is on a front ended contract.. If he is on a back ended contract that makes it hard down the line.. It will protect Jackson and Darcy to share the load over the course of a whole season and not be cooked by finals time.
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