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TOPIC: Too much, Garlic?

Quasimodo Too much, Garlic? 2 years 6 months ago #15

Quasimodo
I thought this was a review of a new restaurant on South Terrace.
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Raglan Matt Too much, Garlic? 2 years 6 months ago #16

Raglan Matt
We spend all season telling the AwFL to leave the game alone for a few years to give everyone a chance to understand it. Then just because Mr Garlick needs something to talk about, we want to cut back the season and let soccer rugby, rugby league, basketball and cricket cut into our game.
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shane Too much, Garlic? 2 years 6 months ago #17

shane
Who spends all season doing that?
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Raglan Matt Too much, Garlic? 2 years 6 months ago #18

Raglan Matt
Everyone but you & Gil Ul Yung, Shane.
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shane Too much, Garlic? 2 years 6 months ago #19

shane
My experience is it's something people say just before they tell you the thing they want to change
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Mushroom Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #20

Mushroom
The only way any of these kinds of suggestions work is by ditching the vestiges of the vfl and having fewer teams in Melbourne. You have to scrap the whole model and start from go. It's just not going to happen. They've already got Clarko heading up a Tassie team in a few years so there's another one in the mix.

I don't buy the more riding on each game thing. If you stop it at 17 games, round 15 there'll still be teams riding high at the top of the ladder resting stars to take it easy going into finals, teams at the bottom tanking for draft pick and teams in the middle fighting tooth and nail to get to 10 wins and make the finals.

How are pumpkins going to feel about paying more for a "higher value proposition membership" in order to see fewer games of footy at Perth Stadium?

Footy darn well is a product. Less of it assigned a higher value per unit is the epitome of product supply versus demand dumbcenomics that is pretty much the root of everything wrong in this world.
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expat Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #21

expat
I would rather stick with the regular 22 game season. When the fixtures come out at the beginning of the year, they should only issue 17 rounds of fixtures showing every team playing each other once.
Then after the 17th round, the remaining 5 weeks should be issued based on where you are on the ladder. The top 8 sides fixtured for the remaining 5 weeks and the bottom 10 sides fixtured for the remaining 5 weeks.
Then the finals as per usual.
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Freoheaven Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #22

Freoheaven
Expat, are you saying that after the 17 rounds the final 8 is set? If you are then you could have a team that is 9th just misses out on the finals by a miniscule percentage. Now if you're saying that the final 8 is not set and those just outside could still make the finals, then the final few rounds if the 17 could be compromised by teams that are just outside the 8 tanking so they say finish 9th or 10th. Then they would have easier teams to play in the final 5 rounds than those teams that finish 7th or 8th.

There is no clear way of reducing games without the fan base being outrages for paying for 11 games but only getting 8 or 9 games a season for the same price as 11.

If a Tassie team comes in say along with a NT or ACT team then I can see two different confrences.
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Morgan Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #23

Morgan
As a Fremantle supporter, the season usually feels a bit too long to me. Supporters of good teams might take a different view.

I like an 18-game season, which includes one ‘rivalry’ game a year is a good outcome, as it means each team can hosts 9 home games a season.

Personally, I’d add a mid-season State of Origin tournament every four years (meaning players would have one or two chances to play over their career), but I realise that’s probably just a pipe-dream.

If I’m being generous, perhaps the AFL is pursuing a growth-at-all-costs model because that money can be funnelled into growing the game in the community level - certainly Auskick seems to be doing pretty well – but it does feel to me to be growth for growth’s sake, and it feels a lot of money is being spent at the extreme margins of professional performance. Other than a couple of hundred AFL team staff, I’m not sure who that benefits.

To me, a league that has a 9th Melbourne team and a team on the Gold Coast over a team in Tassie doesn’t really have its priorities right.
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expat Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #24

expat
Freoheaven. After 17 rounds, the final 8 is not set. It's just that it would make more sense to fixture the final 5 rounds based on ladder position than where you landed the previous season.
If teams did start to tank prior to round 17 just to land in the bottom 10 for fixturing purposes, then I'd say that team would have a culture issue and would no doubt bomb-out in the finals anyway.
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Mushroom Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #25

Mushroom
Just scrap the preseason "series" and get straight on with the 22 rounds.

Make it 20 if you like, Just because 22 as a figure doesn't really make neat sense.
With members having first dibs - I mean true first dibs, in font of corporates, even - at the first finals round games if your mob make it.

Less is more doesn't wash. The only reason I'd support 17 is if everyone around me had had too much garlic.
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rogerrocks Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #26

rogerrocks
I don't know if I could survive only having a home derby every 2nd year.
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Raglan Matt Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #27

Raglan Matt
Scrap the pre-season and get on with 24 or 25 rounds.
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shane Too much, Garlic? 2 years 5 months ago #28

shane
What happened to leaving things as they are?
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