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TOPIC: Intention

jezzaargh Intention 2 years 7 months ago #1

jezzaargh
the thing about it is, you can’t actually ever know what someone intended because you can’t get inside their head.

so, we rely on the vision, and not even the word of a player, because they will lie out of self-interest.

which leads to the vision of Toby Greene walking directly at an umpire with a head of steam. pretty damning and hard to argue he didn’t intend to walk into Stevic. If there’s any consistency (ha ha) at the tribunal, he’s gone.
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Walter the baker Intention 2 years 7 months ago #2

Walter the baker
Yep, Toby initiated the contact and made no attempt to avoid it. If an uncoordinated individual like me can avoid shoulder bumps in crowded railway stations, Toby can avoid contact with an umpire when he has acres of room to move around (despite Luke Hodge trying to coach an “it was accidental contact” response from Toby)
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shane Intention 2 years 7 months ago #3

shane
Nothing in it. Total beat up.
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hypen, pollyanna, Noddy, R.Lyon said You Beaut

pollyanna Intention 2 years 7 months ago #4

pollyanna
Stevic asked for it, deliberate block.
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goodie, Noddy said You Beaut

Tragic Intention 2 years 7 months ago #5

Tragic
The laws of the game state that any contact with an umpire that is deemed aggressive, forceful, demonstrative or disrespectful will be classified as intentional and the player will be directly referred to the tribunal.

For Toby's sake I hope the tribunal consists of Robert Muir, Carl Ditterich and David Rhys Jones.
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teasea, Corporal Agarn said You Beaut

darthmarto Intention 2 years 7 months ago #6

darthmarto
Even back in the day ...

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pollyanna said You Beaut

hypen Intention 2 years 7 months ago #7

hypen
I don't think contact was made. Which refines the argument down to, "did he intend to make contact".
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TheColonel Intention 2 years 7 months ago #8

TheColonel
Any vision of the "alledged contact"
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darthmarto Intention 2 years 7 months ago #9

darthmarto
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shane Intention 2 years 7 months ago #10

shane
Seems like the umpire just turned and the camera makes it look closer than it was.
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Noddy Intention 2 years 7 months ago #11

Noddy
Nothing in it and Stevic should have asked for his autograph, Green is something to watch, the most dynamic player in the league.
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Morgan Intention 2 years 7 months ago #12

Morgan
I’m guessing the umpire will have a reasonable idea of whether Toby made contact.

If he did, Toby’s defence will basically be the ‘I’m just walking huffily in the one direction and if we make contact it’s your own fault’, which won’t go well.

I look forward to the inevitable appeal where they bring out the Umpire Snickometer.

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ICONDOCKER, CaptSnooze said You Beaut

darthmarto Intention 2 years 7 months ago #13

darthmarto
Whole thing will turn on whether a certain umpire will abide by the players' code of not rolling over ...

"I found Toby's scent to be quite offensive after three quarters of his intense activity and immediately sprung away to no longer be nasally assaulted"

The AFL will want TG to walk on this, there'll be some amazing and logic defying tap dancing in the coming days. As WtB mentioned above, the games were afoot before TG had even left the ground.

Wonder if they played golf together in the days beforehand ...
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shane Intention 2 years 7 months ago #14

shane
He didn't react in any way to the incident, which seems odd of he thought he was being assaulted.
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