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TOPIC: Bris v Melb

shane Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #29

shane
I felt like Hogan being moved on was more about the club having to sort out their poor list management practices, with the covid stuff just a convenient smokescreen. Rosich and Lyon were running the club like desperate gamblers trying to recover their losses and the quickest way for someone of Peter Bell's skill set was to dump a player on big money.

All the innuendo is just to avoid management having to admit to their mismanagement.
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Morgan Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #30

Morgan
I’m staggered Bell doesn’t cop more heat for the Hogan debacle.

I would have hoped a plan for managing Hogan’s physical and emotional state would have been something that came up during Bell’s extensive due diligence we heard so much about before pulling the trigger on the trade. Given Dr Bell publicly diagnosed Hogan with ‘clinical anxiety’, which doesn’t technically exist, I’m not sure we were firing on all cylinders as it comes to certain aspects of player welfare.

JLo found himself in a tough positon for a rookie coach when he inherited Jesse’s problems, but I still think he gave up on him too early. Hogan is a blue-chip forward, and JLo was asking him to play as a defender in mickey-mouse 15-a-side games in COVID isolation times while our forward line wasn’t firing a shot. That it was reported Bell or his team set up Hogan’s contract in a way that seemed to financially punish Freo for giving him a game – which led to us banishing Hogan to the seconds instead – really didn’t help.

It shouldn’t have been a surprise Hogan would get frustrated but we never heard peep publicly from Hogan; yet JLo expressed his own disappointment in Hogan’s body-language in the media.

Fast forward a bit and a rookie forward has a whinge about not being picked immediately and they film it and put it on the website as a good news story.

The club made a calculated decision to make a big swing and trade for Hogan. Jesse made a hash of things, and the club made a calculated decision to cut their losses; but they were big losses. I’ve heard Jesse be honest about his struggles and what he’s learned, but I haven’t heard anything from the club about how they might have handled things differently. If Peter Bell is capable of personal reflection he’s never made it obvious in any comment I’ve ever heard.

I feel like they are comfortable putting everything on Jesse, and I’m not sure that’s fair.
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purple kit Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #31

purple kit
I am convinced (in my own head anyway) that Bell walked away from the Hogan trade and was overruled be Rosich, who was acting List Manager during that trade period.
Once it became apparent we were close to our salary cap and trying to find enough room to re-sign Brayshaw and Cerra, Bell decided Hogan was the one to go. It was very costly but I think behind closed doors he would be saying it had nothing to do with him and put the blame squarely on the now departed Rosich.
Letting Hogan go for pick 57 was a complete joke, I personally hope he has a blinder this week and sends the dads army that is Geelong packing from the finals.
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Mushroom Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #32

Mushroom
I've been reflecting myself and come to the conclusion how it's funny how we, the fans, always know better without any knowledge of the back story.

We'd always love to know more. It's why the media exists as a platform for advertisement distribution and why they beat things up so much. There are also many reasons for us not to know more. Often for the protection and wellbeing of the central person.

From my own very limited window, I don't think the superintendence of Jesse was disproportionate.*

*isn't this a wankery way to put it?
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Freolifer Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #33

Freolifer
Unfortunately certain people in the media had it in for Jessie & continued to hound him at every opportunity
Not sure the club could have done much there to protect him
I think the fact he went to GWS rather than a Melbourne club was to escape that sort of scrutiny
Good luck to him
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shane Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #34

shane
For they could not love you
But still your love was true
And when you were forced to be inside
On that horny, horny night

You got the sack, as lovers often do
But I could have told you, Jesse
This club was never meant for one
As beautiful as you
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hypen Bris v Melb 2 years 7 months ago #35

hypen
A long, long time ago
I can still remember how that football
Used to make me smile
And I knew if we had our chance
That we could make the last dance
And maybe I'd be happy for a while.
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