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number 2 Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #43

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Of that list, only 2 have gone home.

And when booty calls, you answer.
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pollyanna Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #44

pollyanna
Add Hayden Crozier and Harley Balic to that list.
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number 2 Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #45

number 2
Who could forget Harley Balic?

We did manage to lure back Harley Bennell, Cam McCarthy and Jesse Hogan.
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bozza Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #46

bozza
The mob up the road predominantly draft local. There is no go home factor. The problem with drafting high end talent from interstate is you have to pay them overs early and when they
Start to perform the offers come in and their managers get to work. It’s easy to say “take the best available” but at some stage you have to think that list management becomes much easier when you draft local. We still have a lot of high end talent on our list from the east coast and soon we will have to cough up big retain them ie Serong, Darcy, Young. Brayshaw is an exception as he is basically West Aussie. We need to look local this year as the talent is undoubtedly there.
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dddocker Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #47

dddocker
And Goodie don't forget West Australians who don't wish to stay or don't want to join the Dockers - Lobb, Hogan, Kelly any others. Is it body odor or the toilets?
I would hope that Adam Cerra appreciates his time at the Dockers and makes sure we get top value for his move back to Victoria. He can do this by saying that he doesn't want his new club/manager to 'buggerize around' with his trade to the detriment of his old club.. C'mon Adam the Dockers gave you a good go show them some respect. I'm sure you will.
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391 Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #48

391
WAFL talent and pick splitting down the draft.

As we head in to the Cerra trade and 2021 draft 2017 is (with hindsight of course) illuminating.

We took Andy at 2, Cerra at 5.

WAFL talent:

Naughton @9
Starcevich @18
Powell @19
Allen @21
Kelly @24
Liam Ryan @26
Sam Taylor @28.

All can play.

So, if we'd pick split one of our top 5 picks we could have Andy and maybe 2 off that list. Split both we'd have 4.

Go local. Don't be afraid to move out of top 8-10 picks to secure WA lads.
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391 Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #49

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www.afl.com.au/news/670097/wa-set-for-bu...ombine-list-revealed

Big crop of WA crew heading to combine ...

Western Australia
Jye Amiss – East Perth
Rhett Bazzo – Swan Districts
Eric Benning – Claremont
Josh Browne – East Fremantle
Kade Dittmar – East Perth
Neil Erasmus – Subiaco
Brady Hough – Peel Thunder
Matthew Johnson – Subiaco
Jesse Motlop – South Fremantle
Lochlan Paton – West Perth
Ethan Regan – East Perth
Angus Sheldrick – Claremont
Jahmal Stretch – Claremont
James Tunstill – East Perth
Jacob van Rooyen – Claremont
Corey Warner – East Fremabtle
Bryce Watson – Swan Districts
Jack Williams – East Fremantle
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shane Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #50

shane
Rhett is a bridge too far for me
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goodie Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #51

goodie
Part of it is that west coast have an extensive business coterie that can offer players lucrative employment opportunities once their career finishes. That's one part of it. But the other, more important, part is regularly being in contention to play finals, and the fear of missing out on success if you leave.

I think that the go home factor has become a convenient excuse for some players that hides the real reason for wanting out- they can't see success on the horizon at Fremantle. At least Lachie Neale was honest in this regard.
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heycharger Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #52

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Below is a list of the full 2021 squad, ordered by home states (I think these are correct), so that's 19 WA players, 16 Vic, 6 SA and Moose from Tasmania.

I put asterisks on players who, by my reckoning, are the best current players or will be in the near future as I see it (just my opinion, and I'm only using these numbers to illustrate a general point - not wishing to argue over individual players). What is a bit concerning is that of the players asterisked, 11 are Vics, 8 from WA, 3 from SA, plus Moose. So if that's the case, there are 15 interstate and 8 WA players in that 'best players' group. The rebuilding midfield is very Vic-focused - Darcy, Brayshaw, Serong, plus Switta may play more midfield (then there was that bloke Que Cerra Cerra). When you think about the future of the club, it's often interstate players that get mentioned - Young, Cox, Frederick, Treacy, etc plus Ryan is a stalwart but still only 25. Yes there are young WA players to talk about like Chapman, Henry, Walker and others but they seem like a minority.

My point is - interstate player retention must be a big focus at the club, with this strategy of recruiting so many interstate players. Player retention has mostly been very good over the years, but there's a lot of interstate players to hang onto here.

WA
* 2 Griffin Logue
6 Reece Conca
* 7 Nat Fyfe (c)
9 Blake Acres
* 10 Michael Walters
* 14 Nathan Wilson
15 Ethan Hughes
19 Connor Blakely
21 Joel Hamling
* 23 Liam Henry
* 27 Heath Chapman
30 Nathan O'Driscoll
* 31 Brandon Walker
32 Stephen Hill
33 Travis Colyer
34 Joel Western
* 37 Rory Lobb
38 Tobe Watson
41 Bailey Banfield

Victoria
1 Sam Sturt
* 3 Caleb Serong
* 4 Sean Darcy
5 Adam Cerra
* 8 Andrew Brayshaw (Vic raised)
* 13 Luke Ryan
* 16 David Mundy
17 Brett Bewley
* 18 Darcy Tucker
* 20 Matt Taberner
22 Lloyd Meek
* 26 Hayden Young
* 28 Lachie Schultz
* 35 Josh Treacy
* 39 Sam Switkowski
44 Taylin Duman

SA
* 11 James Aish
12 Mitch Crowden
29 Luke Valente
* 36 Brennan Cox
42 Stefan Giro
* 43 Michael Frederick

Tas
* 25 Alex Pearce
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jezzaargh Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #53

jezzaargh
Frankly, Shane, I don't think he gives a damn
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Ricco Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #54

Ricco
What I don’t get is people that say “we should draft west aussies” but then on the same token are happy we have the likes of Brayshaw, Darcy and Young on the list.

If you set out to build a list of WA lads the squad will be inherently worse (in most cases you will have to pick someone that is lower ranked than the draft pick you have). At some point you run out of good WA picks as all the other clubs are still picking them.

I think the club has been on record to say that they will err on the side of picking local if it is close.

For every Cerra there is a Brayshaw, Pav or Mundy. You need to pick them and run the risk and try to put the structures around to give you the best chance of holding these guys.
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shane Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #55

shane
Chris Bond had a different way of doing things. Its about balance.
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Davo Resigned 2 years 7 months ago #56

Davo
Bell, Farmer, Headland, McPharlin went OK.

Hamling goes OK when fit.

Plenty more didn't: Bennell, Hogan, Matera, McCarthy, Kersten.

Colyer, Conca & Acres are in that group that only deliver half the time.

Drafting WA boys is only half of the art. Our two longest serving players aren't from WA. The individual has a lot to do with it.

If Lobb leaves, he'll be like B. Hill and Hogan, came back to WA only to leave again.
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