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shane Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #1

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I saw Fyfe practicing with a smaller football, to improve his goal kicking. Which resulted in me arguing with someone about why I think that's a terrible idea.

My view is that the contact with the ball is only part of the kicking action. There's also your balance, the grip on the ball, the way you drop it and the timing of the swing. All the little ball does is mess all of that up. It's wasted practice. All it does is teach you how to kick a little football.

But if he kicks straight today I will be persua...nah, I'll put it down to something else to be honest. It's dumb.
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pollyanna Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #2

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Not really - what if they came out with size 3's for the game today? Fyfe would be well ahead of everyone else grappling with peewee balls - except the main break Auskick kids, that is.
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zorro Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #3

zorro
Are you sure he hasn’t just embiggened himself for the Port game? He does that, you know.
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Awake Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #4

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Bradman used to practice with a small stick and a golf ball, hitting it against a corrugated iron tank if IRC. He went OK. I guess it was building a different skill apart from general hand eye coordination.
Perhaps, in Fyfe's case, the smaller ball is more sensitive to the forces imparted during the ball drop and when the foot contacts the ball.
Perhaps I'm overthinking this.
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Quasimodo Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #5

Quasimodo
My first thought was Shane was describing last night Eagles game.
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Walter the baker Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #6

Walter the baker
Fyfe’s field kicking seems to be ok but he seems to lose it when he has time to prepare.
Big balls, small balls, different boots, cognitive behaviour therapy, ballet, yoga, pilates, neuroscientists, biomechanists, ..... the list goes on. Perhaps players are overthinking it.
Have clubs ever paused for a moment and wondered how the heck so many indigenous players from remote communities rock up to the AFL with stunningly “silky smooth skills” after having none of the above so called supports?
Sport science has its place but maybe the pendulum has swung too far (don’t even get me started on players sprinting to the interchange bench after they kick a goal) and players just have too much going through their noggins.
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hypen Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #7

hypen
So Bradman was wrong to hone his skills with a golf ball and stump?

Its improving a thing hes identified as a weakness. And you are right about one thing - ball contact is only part of the process. It is the outcome of ball drop though.

Its a great idea. Youre wrong. Concede defeat. I love when you are wrong.
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shane Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #8

shane
The mythology of Bradman and the golf ball is exactly where it comes from.

If that was the thing that made Bradman the cricketer he became, and everyone knows about it, then we would have produced dozens more crickets of the quality of Bradman over the past 30 years, and Dave Bloody Warner wouldn't be our undisputed opening bastman. Bradman could do it at that age because he was exceptionally talented. He didn't spend his time as a Test cricketer hitting golf balls with a stump in the nets.
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hypen Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #9

hypen
I read it was his arc. Two days of rain in Perth and its always about arcs.
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shane Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #10

shane
Well I did give that cattle ship off the coast this morning a second glance.
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Morgan Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #11

Morgan
Fyfe has probably been kicking a footy for the better part of three decades.

My guess: at this point the mechanics are what they are but he’s in his own head, and I reckon rather than trying to change anything about the mechanics - and risk Ian Baker-Finching him - they’re trying to get him out of his head with tiny balls. I reckon it’s a placebo which allows him to think he’s working on something (because he’s such a driven player) but it’s all just a distraction.
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pollyanna Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #12

pollyanna
Tiny ball round should be introduced as a regular fixture - you have to torp those little fellas every kick to get over 15 metres. Chip kicks would take an enormous effort and those #3's would be flying everywhere.

Fyfe's an innovator - it's a way better idea than AFLX.
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hypen Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #13

hypen
Fyfe is what you get when someone who doesn't kick well gets the yips.
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Walter the baker Small balls 2 years 10 months ago #14

Walter the baker
I played a season of AFL7s a couple of years ago and its a lot like the above description - the balls are a weird size and weight. Most of us struggled to kick them with any impact but those that had a good technique and ball drop still managed. Fyfe might struggle in AFL7s but Walters would still be more than ok.
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