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TOPIC: Flopper

Walter the baker Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #1

Walter the baker
I wonder if anyone at the AFL will look at Mitchel’s flop. Given how long he stayed on the ground I was worried that he’d never played football again (Actually that’s not true. I wouldn’t worry at all if he never played football again). Anyway, replayed showed that he’d simply been knocked over by Brayshaw who appeared to have done little more that say “f$&@ off you tosser”.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen such obvious staging off the ball (although plenty still occurs with head tossing in the tackle) .. penalise him before we see more of it.
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shane Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #2

shane
It seemed very much in line with the sort of behaviour the rule is there for.
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pollyanna Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #3

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Yes, bring down the hammer on staging - call them out, the public embarrassment alone would stop it. It was amazing how many WeePoo players were apparently almost decapitated just in front of the goal square in the fourth quarter - Wingard's fish-flop was the best. But we had players going to ground all over as well.

But the best stage by a long way on the weekend was Jamie Lambert's swan dive in the middle of the ground in Colonwood's AFLW loss against Brisbane. Anticipating contact with the long ball coming in she did a half-pike lurch dive off the ground forward with no one within a couple of metres. It looked so stupid that she should be suspended from footy for life. Just my view.
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Sunny Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #4

Sunny
I’d love to see it in reeaaallllyyy slow motion accompanied by suitable tragic music. Haven’t got the smarts to do it but maybe someone???
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Walter the baker Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #5

Walter the baker
Id just love to see it! Can anyone find the video?

Back to the original post, total silence from the AFL at this stage. Im sure they only bother if the TV commentators make a big deal about it.
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Drubbing Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #6

Drubbing
Clarkson knows when the umps are too busy with a new rule to manage the existing ones. Free-milking is his go to. They have also worked hard on their throws.
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Mushroom Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #7

Mushroom
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blockerhall Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #8

blockerhall
^. Throwing is back big time in 2021. After plague proportions a few years back I thought we had seen the end of it. Wrong :(
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Walter the baker Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #9

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Thanks for making that effort Mushroom but I was hoping to see the Jamie Lambert example that Polly referred to. Thanks all the same.

It does, however, help confirm that the flop resulted in a goal to the Hawks. If that had happened in the last 30 secs of a close game we's hear more about it (I avoided using the Grand Final scenario, until this last sentence)
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Freo66 Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #10

Freo66
I though this was a thread about Dean Cox but remembered that was Flapper.
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Morgan Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #11

Morgan
I really don’t like the staging creeping into the game.

I realise in many instances it can be difficult to determine conclusively what is staging and what is, let’s say, embellishment. There’s been a few discussions about Walters on here that proves that point. Think also about Shulz last week, who seemed to have only received a glancing blow, but was down for a while. The North fans thought he was milking it, so they booed him as he ran off the ground, and it turned out he was concussed. For that reason, I can see why the AFL will only hand out staging fines for the most egregious examples.

What drives me nuts though is the commentators lauding guys for, basically, cheating by instead calling it smart. In clear cases they should call it for what it is – cheating – if it’s less clear, I’d probably rather they said nothing rather than compliment the players on pulling one over the umpire.

There’s at least a few reasons why this is a bad idea, but I reckon if a player goes down like Mitchell holding his head, the umpire should send them to have the concussion protocol taken. If he was really hit hard enough to go down holding his head, then it’s good practise. If he wasn’t, he gets to sit there like a dill for 10 minutes getting a concussion test for a slight push.
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Raglan Matt Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #12

Raglan Matt
Mushy, I have had a good look at the clip, and cannot see any Freo player within a couple of meters of a Hawk when the original 50 (or 85) meters was paid. Has that grassy hill been shifted from behind the city end goals at Subi to Optus?
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rogerrocks Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #13

rogerrocks
Even just with deliberate out of bounds, could the commentators just say, "That was deliberate out of bounds" instead of lauding the player for how well they disguised it?
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pollyanna Flopper 2 years 11 months ago #14

pollyanna
Walter the Baker (et al):

Lambert's pike-dive is between 5:05 and 4:55 left on the game day clock (bottom left quarter) - Qtr 4:

womens.afl/video/70071/aflw-pf2-lions-v-magpies-q4
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