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TOPIC: Another Draft Update

Corporal Agarn Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #1

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Bizkit Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #2

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The comments on our 2 main NGA's are pretty exciting. I'm hoping they slide this low on draft day but it's difficult to work out how the cards will fall given the number of academy/FS picks involved in this draft. Western's performance in the all star games could see him moving up a few clubs draft boards unfortunately.

26. Brandon Walker
"Introducing one of the smoothest movers of the potential 2020 AFL draft cohort, who is tied to Fremantle’s NGA. Dockers fans will be desperate to downplay Walker’s potential, with elite speed, agility, and vertical leaps combined with clean skills to make up the East Fremantle prospect’s game. He looks a damaging outlet off half-back with his line-breaking ability and precision via foot, while also providing solid defensive cover credit to eye-catching aerial feats and reading of the play. Walker can also move through midfield, adding another string to his bow as he develops.
He has been named at centre half-back most weeks, but loves to break the lines and deliver forward. He’ll be a half-back at the next level."



30. Joel Western
"Fremantle’s NGA talent program has proven one of the more successful producers of AFL-level players since its inception, and Western is one of a few highly touted prospects set to take the next step in 2020. The Claremont captain took his side to a second consecutive WAFL Colts Grand Final after last year’s premiership triumph, overcoming some early injury concerns to run out an outstanding season. The small midfielder is all-class through the engine room, able to zip out of traffic and deliver the ball forward with freakish skill. As will be expected at the elite level, Western is also capable of playing up forward and even across half-back, making him a player with plenty of upside for Dockers fans to look forward to.
He stands up in big games and can find the goals, making for a couple more handy points of difference."
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Corporal Agarn Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #3

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If Hogan goes, any thoughts on a goal kicking big man who can perhaps also ruck, who may be in our reach, Biz or anyone else?
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Gumnut Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #4

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I'm really looking forward to seeing the Liam Henry/Joel Western double act in years to come. Coupled with our young midfield brigade of Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong and co there's exciting times ahead.
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Davo Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #5

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Agarn, his name is Rory Lobb.

If another tall forward is needed, Freo should look to the draft.
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purplepower Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #6

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Do we need to trade our pick 10 ?
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Corporal Agarn Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #7

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That's what i was asking Davo. We do need another ruckman though or preferably a forward/ruckman as we have no real back up for Darcy or Lobb. Well there is Meek, but he doesn't look like getting a game and he's not a forward. So yes as asked who would be the best of these big forwards, or perhaps forward/ruckman that we will have a chance of getting.
W.A. boys, McDonald and Grainger-Barrass are unlikely to be around for us.
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Walter the baker Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #8

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This may have been covered elsewhere but can someone explain in simple terms how access to NGA players work? Is it like father/son, ie you are guaranteed the player if you use your next available selection to match an earlier bid by another club?
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WAL Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #9

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Yes Walter it is the same as F/S, however it is not as simple as using your next pick,
you have to cough up the points value of the pick of where the bid comes.
That is why we drop from seven to 10 this year, we carried over the points deficit from Carlton
bidding on Liam Henry.
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purplepower Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #10

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And that’s why I ask do we trade our pick 10 ?
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Bizkit Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #11

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We also get something like a 20% discount in matching the bid for a NGA kid so there's a huge benefit to picking them up. We have some really good ones in the works over the next few years too but it looks like the AFL are shutting the academy system down which will hurt us big time. Fingers crossed we're still able to pick some up in the future.

Tilthorpe is the main forward/ruck this season and he'll be long gone by our first pick. It's probably reaching a fair bit to pick up another forward/ruck at pick 10 (or wherever our pick ends up after bids) but at our second pick there are more options. Shannon Neale is a WA kid and has shown huge promise and athletic ability but is still a bit raw. He'll go around the 20/30's but will take a couple of years to develop. There's a few taller players around but they're generally not forward/ruck types, more forward/defenders.

Across the competition there aren't many of this sort of player, let alone good ones. I don't think it's likely we'll pick someone up for this role in the draft given our picks and what's available. Another reason I don't understand the Hogan rumours.
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Gumnut Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #12

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Though he can definitely not fit into the tall forward category, where would Alec Waterman fit into the Draft. He's powerfully built and his goalkicking from around the 50 metre arc and beyond is a weapon that most of our forwards lack.
Would he be worth a pick around pick 25-30?
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Bizkit Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #13

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Given the uncertainty of list sizes in the coming years, I'd be surprised if he gets picked up to be honest. Maybe a rookie option but I'd back in our young talent like Sturt and Henry to perform the half forward role.

I don't rate Waterman as highly as some others though. Tim Kelly did far more when he was drafted at a pick in the 20's and was a couple years younger than Waterman is now. Waterman's chances are slim to none unless he performs at an extremely high level for an extended period of time. Even then, most clubs would probably prefer a kid they can develop rather than someone with a few good years left unless they're right in premiership contention. As we're seeing with Geelong on the first day of free agency with I Smith/Higgins/Cameron, those clubs are more likely to poach from other clubs than mature agers these days.
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Gumnut Another Draft Update 3 years 5 months ago #14

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Thanks Biz. You could be right there. It's a bit of a shame really though for Alex as he didn't get a fair crack at his first AFL stint.
What are your thoughts on Heath Chapman? I'm pretty keen on him and Jack Avery from the Tigers.
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