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Straddo Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #15

Straddo
Kelly proves my point Biz, both WA teams overlooked him for years, Kelly went with pick 24 in a draft where he was 23 years old, he was South Freos best player when he was 20, and clearly going to be a great player and yet he got overlooked in the draft 5 times. We (or the Budgies) could have got him for a steal in any of the previous drafts. I'm not suggesting we recruited badly, we got some good players during that time, it's just that we clearly didn't identify the talent potential in our own backyard.

Geelong did fantastically out of that deal, sent the kid home and is now reaping the rewards of smart trading to bring in someone who wants to be there.
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Raglan Matt Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #16

Raglan Matt
Hypen, you will do really well, if you take the best available talent, local or not.
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Walter the baker Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #17

Walter the baker
It appears that Isaac Smith may have chosen Geelong as his preferred club under free angency. It will be interesting to see how the compensation/trade/equalisation process works for players who choose to top up list of 'destination clubs' that are already in premiership contention. As it stands a grandfinalist looks like they will be picking up Smith, Shaun Higgins and Jeremy Cameron - not too shabby if you want to stay at the top!
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Corporal Agarn Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #18

Corporal Agarn
As long as they have draft picks too WTB. Higgins and Smith are both in their 30s. Not long term prospects. It must make young blokes like Clark wonder if he is going to get a decent shot at long term spot.
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Docker by the Sea Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #19

Docker by the Sea
I think free agency does need to be looked at from an equalisation aspect.
It’s true that some players choose second tier clubs. Generally mid tier players that can get top tier wages. Gold Coast had to prop up 600k to get Ellis to choose them. Richmond offered Lynch a reported 800k. I think this is why less highly regarded teams end up in salary cap trouble. It’s not the top end players, it’s the middle range players that need to be paid more to resist advances from more prominent clubs.
With respect to Neale, hearing his comments at the Brownlow it didn’t sound like he left because of Lyon.
Brisbane turned the corner when AFL house intervened with appointments in admin and coaching.
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slammen Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #20

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Maybe instead of free agents being able to pick the team they want to play for, it should be nominate which state you want to play in and then it's up to the teams to offer up the best deal that suits the player and the club.
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Docker by the Sea Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #21

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I think there’s an issue with free agency when the bottom two clubs over the last two years look likely to be compensated with pick 2 at this years draft, and all of the clubs below essentially subsidise this, while the club receiving the player contributes nothing.
I think if the club receiving the player incurred some cost it would be fairer.
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purple kit Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #22

purple kit
How’s this, we make free agency like the academy kids, player can nominate a club of their choice, all clubs get to bid their draft picks for that player and the club has to match the highest bid with draft points. Their picks slide that amount. The compo pick lands after the highest bid.

Ie with Cameron, if north bid pick 2 the cats would have to match those points with their picks, pick 11 would be wiped out and pick 13 would slide back to something in the 50’s. GWS would get pick 3 as compo. (1 after north’s bid at 2)
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TheColonel Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #23

TheColonel
From "Sliding Doors - Damian Barrett"..

"AND THIS ONE'S FOR THE AFL
IF ...
Colonel Sanders owns the patent on the secret herbs and spices recipe ...

THEN ...
the AFL should either buy him out, or patent its own. When it comes to its free agency compensation formula, it is fair to say that on historical examples, there is no formula. Only a gut feel combined with a need to prop up certain clubs combined with a desire to drag down certain others combined with the all-important vibe. Either remove compo totally, which I have long advocated, or provide a proper, above-board system."
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Raglan Matt Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #24

Raglan Matt
This is the big query from Sliding Doors on how corrupt the system is.

IF ...
the Bombers got exclusive access to big Joe as a father-son player way back in 2010 to start with, and if a banged-up big Joe has managed just 15 games in the past three years ...

THEN ...
it's a near miracle that the compo system could give them pick seven in a national draft for free agent loss. The Hawks got pick 19 when Buddy – arguably the best player in the comp – exited in 2013.
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Docker by the Sea Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #25

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RM, the Crouch to Saints move also stinks a bit.
Adelaide pushing for pick two and Saints agreeing to 800k a year. Saints don’t have to use a pick by paying him well over his worth.
Where it gets dodgy sounds like there is going to be a high priced player traded back, maybe Dunstan in a sweet return deal.
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Docker by the Sea Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #26

Docker by the Sea
I agree with clubs being compensated relative to their ladder position because it’s easier to pry players out of weaker clubs.
I just think that the receiving team needs to carry some of the compensation burden, not 16 clubs that played no part.
Particularly for the really top players.
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pollyanna Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #27

pollyanna
I would've demanded that Joey Daniher shave that goofy lip possum off before joining my team.
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pollyanna Free agency 3 years 5 months ago #28

pollyanna
That probably wouldn't worry some people - fair enough:
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