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TOPIC: Robert Muir

Fish Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #15

Fish
So very glad to hear that St Kilda fans have started a go fund me page to raise the money for surgery on Robert’s shoulder. They have raised $25,000 already. Sad that the club or the AFL couldn’t have done this for him.
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docked Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #16

docked
Nice one, DS. No doubt thanks to people such as yourself, Offsiders have at least issued an apology on their Twitter page.
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teasea Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #17

teasea
I too had just finished reading the article and came on here to comment. I think the fact that actual supporters have gotten behind him would lift his spirits more than St Kilda as they would need to be seen to be doing something whereas support from ordinary people shows some people do actually care. Hope it gives him a lift.
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Dropkick Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #18

Dropkick
RM was my favourite player back in my very young The Winners-watching, StK-supporting days. Little did I know what he was reacting to.
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Raglan Matt Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #19

Raglan Matt
Yeah, Shane, it is probably an indictment on the attitude of footy officialdom, that Muir had to use this week to actually get heard. His story has been repeated in many clubs around the country, plenty of potential stars never even got to the big league, because of the treatment they got, similar to what has happened to Robbie. You cna only hope that the next player to call for help is heard whenever he cry's out , not having to wait until the collective guilt allows him to be heard.
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Gumnut Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #20

Gumnut
Whilst on the topic of righting past wrongs the AFL could also issue an apology to the Krakouer brothers for their treatment which was also long apparent during their days in the WAFL where they were hounded by mug football opponents like Bill Skwirowski and Tim Gepp. It was Gepp's only claim to fame that he provoked Derek Kickett into slapping him and in so doing being robbed of a famous Sandover Medal win.
The WAFL could perform an act of reconciliation by retrospectively awarding Derek a medal for his 1987 performance.
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Raglan Matt Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #21

Raglan Matt
Yeah, Gumnut, Jimmy took a similar approach to that of Robbie Muir in an attempt to allow Phil to display his talents, at Claremont and North Melbourne. I know Jimmy had his problems, but he really was hounded from his early days at Mt Barker, and should not (like Muir) be judged on what he did to stand up for himself, and more so, his brother and other Nyoongar players of all grades. When he was allowed to play footy on his terms, which was rare, he was probably one of the best players we have seen, it is a shame he was not given the opportunity to play every minute of his career free of the burden of racism.

As Robbie Muir said in his article, some Players, like Syd Jackson, Polly, Maurice Rioli, could put that racism to work in their favour, but not all could. We need to remember the Robbies, the Jimmy's and acknowledge their struggles all year, not just during Indigenous Round.
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The_Yeti Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #22

The_Yeti
Agree, RM. It speaks volumes that this man had to wait until the Sir Doug Nicholls round just to be heard.

I'm glad that the St Kilda and AFL have both apologised but it would have meant much more had they not been almost shamed into responding.

I read that article this morning and I'm still troubled by what it said. What happened fits a pattern that has been repeated too many times. We need to do better, particularly because we can.
Egurls Suck!
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shane Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #23

shane
It's an article that should not leave your head easily.
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Corporal Agarn Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #24

Corporal Agarn
It's still occurring but nowadays you get these gutless, pathetic people who hide behind a keyboard and use disgusting racial comments to current players, the latest being Michael Frederick.
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Gumnut Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #25

Gumnut
Eddie McGuire's recent comments in relation to Heritier Lamumba's complaints take on new significance when you think back to his participation in that Footy Show stunt, complicit with noted racist Sam Newman. But then it's interesting that Sam also considered himself a good mate of Polly Farmer as well. Different times maybe but inexcusable and we all have to make peace with how we behaved in the past towards aboriginal people. My own attitude as a smart mouthed young teen was forever changed after I played sport and worked with some of the most exceptionally talented and gracious members of our indigenous community who were my friends, team-mates and work colleagues. They taught me plenty and changed my attitude forever particularly after my rather tasteless and typically white Anglo-Saxon behaviour of my youth. It was inexcuseable but such was the predominant attitude of most sections of our community in the 60's and 70's. We need to make amends and stamp out this racist behaviour wherever possible.
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Mushroom Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #26

Mushroom
There are times when it realise I am a privileged, white, middle aged male and I hate it.

Reading that was one.

How racism becomes a peer pressure thing to be part of is beyond me, but depraved inhumanity is something else.

May we learn and be sorry and be better and be forgiven, eventually,
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Gumnut Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #27

Gumnut
Unfortunately I think depraved inhumanity, as you put it, may be part of society as long as people can hide behind anonymous social media but racism is something we can educate people in a lot of cases particularly if it is your own family or close associates. Younger people tend to follow in the habits of their family or peer behavior whilst some older generation have deep seated racist attitudes that may be impossible to change. Sam Newman unfortunately is one of those people and I'm not really sure if his apologies to Nicky Winmar were genuine as he has continued to make these type of comments over a long period of time And there are a lot of people who share his views and think this type of behavior is a big joke despite widespread condemnation in the media and wider community.
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Drubbing Robert Muir 3 years 7 months ago #28

Drubbing
Isn't a indictment on the AFL and St Kilda that everyone who knows Robbie Muir's name can only connect him to the nickname and the highlights reel of him flattening blokes and his suspension record?

At no stage did anyone ask what makes a bloke so angry.
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