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TOPIC: Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle

Docker by the Sea Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 10 months ago #15

Docker by the Sea
Matera, Colyer or Shultz could all miss for someone else, I can’t see how the incoming player could contribute less than any of these three last week
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exceed Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 10 months ago #16

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I love Blakey in defence when he is facing the ball. Unfortunately the times he has played in the middle ( pre season Carlton game where he was dropped after) he just continuously turned the ball over not just by foot but also by hand. Yes he gets it no doubt but as a mid his turnovers are bad.
This is something that has continuously dogged him and hence why Longmuir has not played him .
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Corporal Agarn Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 10 months ago #17

Corporal Agarn
I was hooraying Hill last week Polly....but that didn't last long.
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Corporal Agarn Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 10 months ago #18

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Here's an interesting site with regards to turnovers. There's some big and surprising names that are high up, with Blakely at #80 and quite a few Freo and more credentialed players above him.
I'd still be playing him before Colyer.

Slime have three players in the top 10 for turnovers so does this say turnovers don't kill you?

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Matebe Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 10 months ago #19

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I thought Sean Darcy would be an absolute lock for number 1 on that... oh.. sorry.. I thought they were talking apple turnovers.
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Raglan Matt Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 10 months ago #20

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It does confirm what we always thought, the commentators favorites at WC are over rated turnover merchants.
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gidgegary Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #21

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I can see a smashing coming up. Brayshaw needs to pull his finger out.
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expat Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #22

expat
Good to see Haydon Young get another game. Also pleased with Caleb getting a birth.
Regarding that turnover table... I don't think the "average" is a good stat when comparing everyone because if you only get 6 disposals and turn it over once, then your average looks good; however, if you normalize the turnover stat, then that may show the true culprits.
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demo1 Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #23

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Good stat CA.
So the weags after having 3 top turnover merchants added another one in the off season in Tim Kelly.
No wonder JKey and Darlingey cant get a kick at the moment.
Glad we offoaded those two liabilities in Hill and Langdon..
Should be an interesting Derby now
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Docker by the Sea Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #24

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The raw number is one thing but is misleading because it could purely be a reflection of the number of touches you get.
Likewise players like Wilson and B Hill have a license to execute high risk, high reward difficult disposals. Nathan Fyfe is probably lower on this list because his possessions require less finesse.
As a midfielder I would like a few more that can get their hands on it 20-30 times. I think a little too much is being made of some howlers made in one pre season game for Blakeley. He’s shown he can accumulate at this level. Matt Priddis was never a highly skilled devastating player but did a great job.
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Bizkit Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #25

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I'm not too fussed about Blakely getting a shot.

He took over RL's strategies quite well and is someone I worry has had these traits trained into him too much. When he first came to the club he found the ball well and just got it forward any way he could. He wasn't the cleanest disposal but he won the contested footy and got it to a contest further up the ground very well.

As RL taught him more, he stopped getting the ball forward and instead always looked to go backwards first, often at the detriment of the team. He'd put other players under pressure with handball and poor disposal and often be a liability regardless of how much of the footy he got.

I think you only have room for a couple of these sort of clearance players and if they're going backwards and making poor decisions when they win it, their use drops dramatically. If we have Fyfe and Brayshaw in there, I can't see room for Blakely. More so if Serong develops into half the player he should be.
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Corporal Agarn Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #26

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On another matter, we got absolutely towelled up in defence last week. Our two key backmen were no match physically for Dixon and Westhoff. So this week one of those big guys is injured and we go in with an even smaller line up.
We keep hearing and reading good things about how big and strong Valente is as a midfielder and what a good prospect Watson in the backline. So why the hell don't we play him with Cox out?
Is there some Freo rule that you must only play one debutant at a time? We're not expecting a lot this year and plenty of other teams better than us are giving youngsters a go. Watson is the only big fit defender left that looks likely(not seeing O'Reilly in this category)so give him a go.
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shirtfront Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #27

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Matera, collyer and shultz are not up to scratch...if they don't contribute this weekend....start the process of bringing
in some young guys who have speed, skills and endeavour....can't be any worse off...
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Bizkit Teams: Gold Coast v Fremantle 3 years 9 months ago #28

Bizkit
Watson isn't that big and is quite skinny. You're probably better off with an undersized Hughes or maybe Mundy going back.

I can't see how we'll stop King and Day in the air. It's a night game so I assume we're hoping the conditions are too slippery and or wet.
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