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TOPIC: Past its use by date?

White Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #1

White
I'm intrigued as to what your opinions are people. Should this supposed "rebuild" have been completed by this point, and could it be deemed a success? I'm not sure about you, but having suffered at the hands of this team for nearly 26 years, I'd like to know whether I can expect that the Dockers will be winning a greater percentage of games than they lose, in the not too distant future. It has now been six long years since we have enjoyed any form of real success within a season and that time frame does appear to be overly long.
Is it simply just a case of an inexperienced team profile, and holding fat until the greater proportion of the playing group have the best part of fifty games experience? Am I right in my estimation that the wheel only "turned" at Brisbane after approximately nine years of deplorable win/loss ratios? These are all questions I've been pondering over the course of the day, and I love hearing your insights people, so fire away!
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quaybob Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #2

quaybob
My Thoughts, I had to help a bloke with some cattle, missed out on most of the game till the last 10 minutes, some tried. My thought was will have to make up some excuse for the side again as I always do, second thought was I am old, my excuses for Fremantle will last longer than my life. My wife ripped one into as I not supposed to do hard work, but gee it was fun with the cattle.
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shane Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #3

shane
You know we sacked the coach last year, White? Doesn't that give you an idea of how the pace of the rebuild has been judged?
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freo00 Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #4

freo00
You can't remove the stench of the football guru this soon , it will take more time !

We did waste the last 5 years really !
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White Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #5

White
Shane, the coach is not directly responsible for the overseeing of a rebound. It doesn't happen solely under his watch.
I, like the majority, maintain that injuries are the single biggest blight of this club. However, the injuries to Pearce and Hamling were both rather innocuous, and I'm not sure Webber can be blamed in this instance.
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expat Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #6

expat
Life without Sandi is going to take a little while to get used to. Likewise, its going to take time for Longmuir to tweak his recipe to success and find his best 25. But so far, I like what I see.
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Corporal Agarn Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #7

Corporal Agarn
The thing with the injuries to Pearce and Hamling is that they both end up not responding to treatment from Weber and crew, Pearce twice and Hamling once. Hill is another one and now Acres?
So many of our injuries become way longer than expected. We never have our best 22 on the park not matter what time of the season.
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Bizkit Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #8

Bizkit
We haven't been rebuilding though, RL half-assed it by trading away draft picks for mature age players. We didn't get an influx of talented kids to drive us towards the top end of the ladder and RL didn't develop the few we did pick.

We sacked him last year and now it'll be a couple years to see some of the kids we've picked up mature and adjust to AFL let alone a new coach and game style.

A close loss on the road against a young side that finished second on the ladder last year is a good sign of improvement.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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Morgan Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #9

Morgan
I think there’s a window for a 2022-2023 premiership tilt, but it’s a tough needle to thread from here. On the plus side, we’ve got:

i. the core of a premiership backline in A Pearce, Hamling, Ryan and Wilson in the 24-27 bracket;
ii. forward KPP options in Tabs, Lobb and Hogan;
iii. established match-winners in Walters and Fyfe (albeit in their late 20s); and
iv. a new coach.

In my view, to challenge for a premiership in that time we need:

i. most of our recent blue-chip draft picks (Sturt, Brayshaw, Cerra, Serong, Young and Henry) to establish themselves as A-graders and at least one or two of them to become stars.
ii. one or more of our frustrated talents to hit their straps and turn into reliable contributors (think Hodor, Logue, CamMac, Cox or Blakely, and perhaps Aish or Acres, but I don’t really have a view on them yet).
iii. someone to come from the clouds a little to be an elite player (think Valente, Dixon or Carter);
iv. Hogan to be an elite player again;
v. to fill a few obvious gaps like a lock-down small defender (Logue?), an elite small forward (Henry?) and someone to run up and down the wings;
vi. settle on which of our role players can contribute in a Premiership-calibre team the ways guys like De Boer, Mzungu and Suban did;
vii. some better management and/or luck with injuries; and
viii. Fyfe and Walters to be able to contribute when they are 31 or 32.

In my view, it all comes down to which of our young guys can become an elite midfielder. If we can get enough young star power through the middle, Fyfe and Walters can fill plenty of gaps forward of the centre as their midfield responsibilities are reduced. Losing Neale and B Hill really hurt us on that front, especially where Hogan hasn’t been able to help us yet.

Looking at that list above, I think there is the potential to be good, but I’m not sure we have the potential to be great.
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Drubbing Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #10

Drubbing
We we really need is a mostly fit squad. Every year they're picking from what's left of the carnage wrought by unfixable long term injuries.
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Davo Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #11

Davo
Right, so only viii) things to change then. No worries.
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mac Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #12

mac
The Use by Date is a guide.
If the item is frozen prolongs the life.
Frozen means injuries, no show recruited players and a new coach.
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pollyanna Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #13

pollyanna
I don't want to throw a spanner in, but there's also a 'Best Before' date - which was weighing me down over the previous three years.

In terms of Best Before I believe we have a cupboard full of baked beans. We're set.
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OGS Past its use by date? 3 years 10 months ago #14

OGS
Did you see how well Sam Collins played last night
Roly let him go for nothing as per the Pig and Menegola to name just a few
Nyhuis would have being handy against Cameron, Lyon has set this club back at least 5 yrs
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