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TOPIC: 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds

Gumby 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #15

Gumby
I'm happy to keep supporting the club but I (foolishly) upgraded my family's seats this year to what amounts to about another $1000 the cost of previous seasons. So I'm going to pay more for an even worse experience than last year.
A little meaningful communication from the Club about my options wouldn't go astray Dale...
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Quasimodo 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #16

Quasimodo
I don't mind and can afford to give my season seat rent as a donation. But not everyone is ion that situation. For the AFL and clubs to expect it is arrogant.

But and this is the big but. Going to the footy is a luxury not a necessity so if you paid for a luxury you cant expect too much sympathy.

Mrs Quasi talks about supporters and fans. A supporter if they can afford it will let the club keep the money so we can be solvent at the end of this. A fan will ask for their money regardless.

We are legally entitled to the money, the question is do we need it more than our club.

Don't expect the AFL or the WAFC to bail us out.
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hypen 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #17

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The people complaining about not getting their money back will be the first to complain about not having a club.
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The_Yeti 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #18

The_Yeti
While you may be correct in that assumption, hypen, I think you are looking at this the wrong way.

Freo members (seat renters) pay a very steep price for their membership. Freo even charge more than the slime for the same seats in some categories. The club itself doesn't treat the members as members of a club. They treat them as customers.

The basis of any reasonable business transaction is 'value given for value received'. In this case there is likely to be no value received, so it's not really a valid commercial transaction.

To my way of thinking, had the club acted as a club and not a commercial enterprise, they'd be in a position to appeal to the members not to reclaim their money. Hanging on to the money when they are not delivering any value for it because it helps their business to survive isn't justified.

The only thing they can do to act properly is to offer to return the money and give full details on how to apply for it or give the seat renters an opportunity to get the money or donate it to the club. That needs to be an informed choice, not a fait accompli or a donation by stealth.

Anything less than a properly informed choice on the part of each seat renter is improper and making it difficult for people to know how to make that informed choice is probably fraudulent.

It's also massively hypocritical when up till now it's acted as a commercial organisation conducting commercial transactions but now when it loses it's steady income, it wants everybody to treat it like a club. It's pretty disgraceful conduct and shows the arrogance that has been a hallmark of Freo FC since the day of the Steves. You reap what you sow.
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Gumby 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #19

Gumby
Yeah nah Hypen that's just too flippant. With the seat renter money that I can afford, maybe I want to spread it around and support not only FFC but also my local bakery, restaurants and make a donation to Food Bank.
FFC have to date been silent on options for members so I can only assume they plan on keeping all that I have paid.
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Matebe 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #20

Matebe
The AFL and every club can and will survive, just not in the format they got comfortable expecting. I don’t really care if an exec on $750k per annum has to accept $150k, or a player has to take a cut from $800k down to $200k. Or you can’t afford to pay out a sacked coach a million dollars if you terminate a contract early. There are far greater concerns in our society.
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Drubbing 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #21

Drubbing
Yes, you're all right. The club are counting on the goodwill and loyalty of supporters, to not ask for any money back. At the cost of some memberships, that's counting on a lot.

Also a tough ask when they've shown little in return, and wasted so much money themselves. It's an arrogant and cynical position to take. Loyalty should be two way street, but they use it as a cheap marketing slogan that goes one way.

Money should be returned on a pro rata basis of home games that eventually get played, or be rolled over into next years membership. Anything less is theft.
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Matebe 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #22

Matebe
Even the idea of a pro rata may be inconvenient and unacceptable to some. I for one have no interest in going to the footy on say a Monday night to watch games reduced to 16min quarters.
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DS 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #23

DS
I'd take footy on any night of the week for any length of quarters at the moment. Geez I miss the footy.
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darthmarto 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #24

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The attitude of the AFL since this thing kicked off has been fairly average at best.

To even be suggesting membership fees should be treated as a donation dumps every single member into the same basket.

I'm sure Mr Member1 who owns a business that makes surgical masks is able to afford to donate whatever he wants to whoever he wants. Mr Member2 who just shut his cafe that he and Mrs Member2 just spent the last decade building up to it provides an income that supports them both, might have different priorities right now. Not to mention that donations are discretionary.

The lack of anything approaching leadership or any smattering of empathy is pretty galling. Some of the players' attitudes when there was the whole "we played in a bush-fire fund raising match so we shouldn't have to take a pay cut" tone floating about from the Players Association was pretty off.

A few in here have hit the nail right on the head, this "you've given us your money, bad luck!" type attitude that is coming across just isn't good enough when an AFL statement along the lines of "these are uncertain times, we're letting events unfold as we wait to see what form the 2020 season takes, but refunds have certainly not ruled out" would be fairly reasonable and none too difficult for a sporting code that loves a headline.

Might have avoided the awkward position that Eddie now seems to have taken some informal spokesperson role and couldn't have screwed that up more if he'd tried.

Actually he probably could have ... now that i think about it a little more.
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hypen 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #25

hypen
What would happen to the club if every member got a refund? It's that fundamental. I don't care if Rosich made you all cry.
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pollyanna 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #26

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Mr. Member 2 spent years and years charging me $8 for a 20c cup of coffee - stuff him and his cafe.
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hypen 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #27

hypen
It's not about what you get anymore, it's about what you give in these times.

Don't talk to me about Rosich.
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Drubbing 'Very small amount' have asked for refunds 4 years 2 weeks ago #28

Drubbing
Roll over memberships pro rata for any games not played - they don't have to issue refunds.

But to hold out and expect it to be a donation, is a fast way to undo any of the platitudes they've trotted out since ridding themselves of the Rossichs.
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