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TOPIC: Tim Kelly - lock it in

shane Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #127

shane
They drive up prices with team budgie smugglers? I hope Ron Joseph isn't still in the game.
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hypen Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #128

hypen
And you call me weird.
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shane Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #129

shane
I didn't call you weird. I thought it was weird that Dockermus got so despondent about goal replays.
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hypen Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #130

hypen
What is weird is England haven't asked to change the ball......wait.
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Corporal Agarn Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #131

Corporal Agarn
Bloody Warner.
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shane Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #132

shane
He's taking his revenge on country for suspending him.
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expat Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #133

expat
I get it that Kelly, now out of contract, can name a club where he wants to play. But what I don't get is how Geelong can demand 3 picks.
I can understand how Kelly wants to take the easy route and step into a team who's premiership window is open, yet again... but doesn't want to achieve legendary status like Nat Fyfe for being responsible for getting Freo to their maiden premiership.

As our midfield has been decimated over the past couple of seasons with Lachie Neale, Brad Hill and most likely Ed Langdon departing, there's definitely now more ball for Kelly to hoover up and display his million dollar skills. But, if he goes to the West Coast, then maybe he's just not the midfield hero everyone thought he was.
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Docker by the Sea Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #134

Docker by the Sea
Unread those comments by Ralph and it validates a belief I have had for some time, especially since free agency has come into play, less prestigious clubs will always be at a disadvantage. This plays out in the ability to attract and retain players. I think it also goes a fair way to understanding why these same clubs, end up in salary cap trouble with mediocre lists, as they have to pay players even average players more in order to resist overtures from other clubs.
Duffield made a valid point recently on his podcast. West Coast started out with 60-70% of the West Australian population as a supporter base. As a player you will have a many more opportunities, coming from this playing group.
I don’t know how to combat it but if the AFL is genuinely concerned with an even competition where all teams get their moment it should be looking at this.
The same would also pose a problem for teams such as North Melbourne, St Kilda and Western Bulldogs versus teams such as Hawthorn, Richmond and Collingwood.
I’m not saying they are insurmountable, and there is nothing we can do about it but it is, in my opinion a thing.
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hypen Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #135

hypen
Everyone seems to want to play for Carlton and Brisbane at present, Docker by the Sea. Every club gets a chance to be a destination club, and only the poorly performed clubs whinge about the perceived inequities of free agency.

The fact no one wants to play for Freo or many want out is not linked to our prestige.

Its up to a decade of mismanagement being laid bare.

Professional footballers don't gravitate to the clubs they supported as kids when they are a fruit basket!
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DJKL Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #136

DJKL
That Jon Ralph article is less credible than the latest New Idea piece full of "sources close the to Royals say..." quotes.
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Docker by the Sea Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #137

Docker by the Sea
I take your point Hypen and I’m not saying it excuses the situation we currently find ourselves in. I sincerely hope that a new coach can address this.
I am suggesting that some clubs have less room to manoeuvre within these windows. Throughout the period we were very competitive we weren’t able to manufacture being a genuine destination club without targeting players that had an element of risk.
Some of these acquisitions seem to correspond with an erosion of standards at the club.
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rogerrocks Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #138

rogerrocks
So assuming we (and WC) call Geelong's bluff and don't deal, then Kelly takes his chances in the draft. Given he wants to come home, you'd imagine eastern states clubs pass on him, and he falls to us.
But if you go in the draft, how do you negotiate a salary? Can a player put themselves in the draft and say that they will only go with a 2+ year contract with a $400,000+ salary?
These things aren't usually a problem in the normal draft, where I believe players are on a fixed 2 years at a set amount of money.
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goodie Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #139

goodie
Watching the game Tim? Big choices mate, big choices.
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purplepower Tim Kelly - lock it in 4 years 7 months ago #140

purplepower
He probably wouldn't get a game at WC
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