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TOPIC: Please try to open the other eye

Walter the baker Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #1

Walter the baker
I don’t expect a lot (any?) you beauts for this post but I’ll give it a shot anyway. Despite winning a game that most of us had given away with an expectation that we’d get thumped we still can’t manage to sling off at the umpires. I admit to seeing every contest through purple lenses and can’t believe that frees I see aren’t rewarded or those that aren’t there are, but somehow I manage to move on and watch the rest of the game without blaming the poor sods who are tasked with adjudicating the highly subjective rules that exist in our game.
I’m guessing that the Cats supporters at the game are equally filthy with the bias of the umps as are many of those that have posted on this site. It’s one thing to say that the umps made bad decisions but how can they have favoured both sides depending on who you follow?
As an example, if you watched the game on the box, you’ll recall an contest between Fyfe and Dangerfield that received a some focus from the commentators. At first view my purple eyes thought Fyfe should have got the free, the umps made no call and the commentators thought Fyfe slid into Dangerfield’s legs and should have been penalised. No doubt 3/4 of the people watching had their own views but the umps are trying to see these things in real time while negotiating 36 bodies and blind spots.after watching the replays I still wasn’t sure what the right decision was but I’m sure most Freo supporters were ok with Fyfe not being penalised.
Anyway, I’ll concentrate on watching the game, I’ll maintain my bias, I’ll see frees that aren’t there, but I won’t bang on about the umps costing us games we were never going to win or showing bias where there is no objective evidence to support it. It’s a bloody tough gig and we wouldn’t have a game without them - accept some mistakes. Open the other eye occasionally and you will see plenty of contests where we get marginal frees or get away with indiscretions.
There I’ve had my bit of Sunday catharsis- fire away.
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FDB Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #2

FDB
I don’t recall either team yesterday getting soft frees directly in front of goals or at crucial momentum-killing moments, so happy to give the umps a pass on this game (which was often a pretty chaotic one to follow).

Would I be saying this if we lost? Probably not.
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The_Yeti Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #3

The_Yeti
Yeah but a bald headed flog is still a bald headed flog, right?
Egurls Suck!
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docbert Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #4

docbert
Watching the replay after being at the game gives you a different perspective on some of the free kicks and you can see why some of them were paid.
But having the crowd get stuck in to the umpires gave the game a lot more atmosphere and made it much more enjoyable.
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KingKepler Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #5

KingKepler
I think no whistle was the right call in the Fyfe Dangerfield contest.

The art of good umpiring should be knowing when not to blow the whistle as much as knowing when to blow it.

The umpires would be less criticised if less free kicks were paid in general. Then we wouldn’t see teams such as west coast successfully practicing to take advantage of how the game is umpired to win free kicks.

Let the players play the game......and we get to see a much better spectacle. There is already too much control exerted by coaches and game administrators.
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pollyanna Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #6

pollyanna
If I open my other eye the last thing I want coming into view is an umpire.
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hypen Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #7

hypen
That's not very nice Polly.

They made four errors. Matera did not push the guy in the back, Fyfe was careless sliding in and should have been penalised, Logue dropped it not pinged and they missed one on a cats player in the marking contest.

We all (myself included ) went troppo yesterday.
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Gumnut Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #8

Gumnut
You're quite correct Hypen on those missed free kicks for Geelong that you mentioned and Nat's very lucky that Danger was not injured or he would not have played another game this season. The problem with the umpiring was actually not the kicks that were given to Geelong, except the Matera one, but the missed holding the balls on Geelong players . There were numerous cases where holding the ball decisions should have been given and the umpires deserved all the flak that came their way at half time.
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hypen Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #9

hypen
They weren't holding the ball, Gumnut. I went feral along with everyone else just before half time. But on replay it was no prior or they made an attempt.
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The_Yeti Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #10

The_Yeti
They made one blue in our favour.

Just before half time, they let Darcy play on from behind the goal line. That was the goal that put us in front at the half
Egurls Suck!
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pollyanna Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #11

pollyanna
Hodor went over, the ball didn't - play on, correct call. docbert and Hypen are right - we went troppo over some calls, but we all really got into it. It was fun, lots of fun because we won.
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KingKepler Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #12

KingKepler
Hodor’s goal is an interesting one......if the ball never went over the line then he is entitled to play on as he did. But in the event a player takes a mark then takes the ball over the line can he then I assume they couldn’t play
On whilst the ball is still over the line? We see players on a tight angle lining up for a set shot behind the boundary line and the. Running around the mark into a play on situation.......so if they do this and the ball is behind the boundary line I’m guessing the call should be out of bounds?
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Gumnut Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #13

Gumnut
I have watched the replay twice and I think you're all being a bit generous. If you take on the tackler and get caught that is holding the ball. Your prior opportunity is forfeited when you take this action and Geelong were definitely given more leeway to get rid of the ball unlike when Blakely got pinged by Kelly which resulted in a goal. Also at least 3 incorrect boundary line calls that went against us. I'm totally rapt with the win but some of that umpiring was the worst I've seen this year and our guys just kept up with their endeavour and gang tackling.
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Walter the baker Please try to open the other eye 4 years 9 months ago #14

Walter the baker
Gumnut, you sound like you are suggesting that the umpires only made errors that favoured Geelong. That’s just simply not true. Sure, they made errors, you would have to superhuman not to, but we only notice those that disadvantage our team regardless of who our team is. So much wasted energy and angst is focussed on the umps. It’s like road rage without cars.
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