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TOPIC: How to spot good coaching

pollyanna How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #1

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You're getting pummeled in the middle, cut apart by the opposition's short kicking game, unable to contain the other guy's spread and down by over five goals late in the second quarter. You try a couple of things out before the main break, have a rethink and then you come up with a plan that you drill into everyone at the main break.

Game on, third quarter you get your team to force their style, fourth quarter you scrap away until the other guys are playing how you want them to and you put the foot down to win it by over three goals. Bummers by 21 pts.

That's coaching on game day - you're there to win it, not to floss your teeth.
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fradonjan How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #2

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i did not see the whole game ,but a standout thing for me was ,for both teams ,as they went forward ,guess what it was man on man ,nearly every time .
so why dont we do it ?Ross???
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purplepower How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #3

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Ross The Loss
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pollyanna How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #4

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It was as depressing as it was captivating - away from home in front of a hostile crowd, no ruckman, missing at least six of your best players and you know what to do to win - comfortably in the end. It looks like you're into September action after stringing together victories.

All of this the night before I go and sit in the wet and cold hoping for a miracle to beat the team sitting 14th on the ladder. I refuse to accept that others find it inevitable that the cue is in the rack after a mere 13 games on our 25th anniversary year.
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shane How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #5

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This is about the time of year that people start picking apart our list and saying that we need to go back to the draft, we need to invest in youth, we need more time...and then the rambling unaccountability continues unchecked

What we need is a clean out of the football department and the administration.
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pollyanna How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #6

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You should expect to see the the manner of coaching that last night's game showed everyone. That's why there's all those people in a football department, that's why there's all those people crammed into the box with laptops and phones during the game. Sure, the decisions made were astute and they got the result - but they weren't exceptional. It didn't rely on some exceptionally talented player to put in some remarkable performance, the ball to bounce properly at the right time, the umpires to gift a few questionable frees, nope - the win came from an ability to read what was happening and the nouse to get your team to change in order to win the game.

I sit and watch games and often wonder why a team doesn't see what everyone sees, why the coaches don't make the changes that appear so obvious. Last night they did, in many other games they do as well. It separates intelligent coaching from dumb coaching.

My team has a really good list of players and it is frustrating to watch them play so exhaustingly dumb. I've seen it for years now - our list gets better but it doesn't matter. There's nothing magic that's going to happen without someone questioning what good coaching actually is. That means during the game - not before and after, not during the week, not during the preseason. All of it, but your results come about during the game - that's where the good ones show themselves the most.
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ICONDOCKER How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #7

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Polly, I think there’s a good chance Worsfold won’t be at Essendon next year, do you think he’d be a good option for us?
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pollyanna How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #8

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He's clearly a good coach, maybe because of the people around him - like Mark Harvey. Who can say what will happen - my view is that you should first decide who is a good coach and who isn't. Plenty of clubs are doing that at the moment.
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FD1016 How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #9

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The weird thing is that it’s been like this for 25 years.
We have had a change in leadership, admin and players several times over, and yet it still stays the same...
So the big question is why?
I just don’t get it.
As much as I feel it time for RoLy to go, will it really change anything or will we be saying the exact same thing in another 5 years when another coach fails?
And another thing....RoLy is the only coach to have taken us to a GF.
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Docker by the Sea How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #10

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Yes he did take us to a grand final but we are unwatchable.
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KingKepler How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #11

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Worsfold got stuck in a rut with a pretty average list in the last four years he was at West Coast. He had an outdated game plan which other teams had figured out and it seemed like he had no idea how to change it for the better.

The best thing for West Coast was to bring in someone new and Worsfold acknowledged that himself.

I am not sure if he has reinvented himself but Essendon are playing some pretty good footy.

Ross Lyon has proven to be a good coach in the past but I think he has stagnated a bit in his approach. Most of the good coaches have us figured out (Clarkson, Simpson, Hardwick etc). We run out of steam half way through the year because of the system we implement and there is a reluctance to have flexibility within our system even against different kinds of opposition.

When the coach becomes confused as to why we are losing games because the stats sheet shows we shouldn’t be I think that points to a change needing to be made.
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ICONDOCKER How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #12

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My jaundiced view is that the WAFC will appoint Worsfold when he becomes available because he’s a WCE favoured son.
They’ll jump at him and dump Ross when the time is right.
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Noddy How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #13

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The most amazing thing about the whole outcome was that it was Worsfold coaching. Perhaps when they were five down he said stuff this, someone else have a go.
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hypen How to spot good coaching 4 years 8 months ago #14

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