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TOPIC: Can it be this simple

TheColonel Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #1

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Clickerty

The reason behind not sacking the coach .. aparently...
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hypen Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #2

hypen
Rosich: "what, a soft cap that taxes us at 37.5 cents over a certain threshold! I better give the incumbent coach a five year deal and manage retention risk!"
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shane Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #3

shane
Football clubs don't care about wasting money.

I think it's more to do with the perception that sacking coaches is something volatile clubs do and people selling major sponsorship packages want to be able to tell a story of stability.

Until they won a flag the common response to sacking a coach was 'We don't want to become another Richmond'. Sacking a coach midcontract is an admission of failure, and an admission that you don't know what you're doing. I think it's lead to clubs sticking with coaches that clearly aren't getting the job done simply for appearance.

And if you look at the goings on at Essendon during their drug cheating, you can see that there are huge, inefficient football departments that lack any accountability, so it's easy to shuffle blame around from one place to the next without anyone having to get the chop.

There are a lot of sloppily run football clubs, with corporate governance structures that don't fit the nature of a football club and when things aren't working they just keep ploughing on with new strategic plans and reorganisation of the departments.
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freo00 Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #4

freo00
Well there it is then , a stale coaching panel through to 2020 and probably beyond !
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Jooter Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #5

Jooter
The problem with the Richmond/Hardwick example is that Hardwick entered 2016 under the pump as a coach, survived, then led the Tigers to the premiership in 2017. This article describes how under the pump he was mid 2016

www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-31/brendon-g...-fire-coach-hardwick
(he even got the CEO 'kiss of death' when Gale pledged his support for the coach).

Hardwick came through a whole-of-club review prior to that and he was clearly under the pump in 2016 with a year to go on his contract, echoes of what is happening now with Freo. I rate Hardwick as a coach; he came up with a game plan that basically derailed the Freo congested play style when we were flying in 2015.
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freo00 Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #6

freo00
We flew till 1/2 time and died and 3/4 through the season and died in 2015 !

And been dead ever since .
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CaptSnooze Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #7

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The timing suggests that this soft cap may have been introduced partly due to Fremantle's top drawer 5-year, million-dollar-pa deal with Ross Lyon.
I sounds like it has squeezed our soft cap for 4 years, which squeezes the ass coach/footy department salaries. So there's no attraction for new ass coaches/fitness staff, no movement in the organisation. Maybe reading too much into it, because doesn't explain how successful clubs like Hawthorn and Geelong address the soft cap.
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shane Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #8

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I don't see how Hardwick creates a problem with the example. Richmond had a reputation for going through a lot of coaches and not getting anywhere. It was an established running comment that sacking the coach too often made you like Richmond.

What's dumb is doing things just because someone else did them, or because someone else didn't do them. Which was my point, and had nothing to do with Ross Lyon or Fremantle.
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Flag_2005 Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #9

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Except that it wasn’t a 5 year deal.

The bigger issue was clubs like Collingwood and West Coast and Essendon and how much excess money they have to spend on the best coaches, doctors, physios, IT systems etc... with which the Western Bulldogs and Kangaroos of this world simply could not compete.

With the draft, the salary cap and removing Sydney’s COLA allowance it was the last lever to pull in equalising the competition as best as possible (ignoring the fixturing...).
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The Spud Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #10

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There's a photo doing the rounds of the Essendon coaches box with 12 people in there all on laptops. And Whoosha wasn't one of them. Roughly one for every two players. The mind boggles as to how many there'd be without the soft cap.
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shane Can it be this simple 4 years 8 months ago #11

shane
Woosha was under the desk looking for a spare power point.
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