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TOPIC: So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again?

Roodawg So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #1

Roodawg
Calling it now. Last year's draft was a bust. None of the players we picked have had an impact.
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Roodawg Re:So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #2

Roodawg
Personally I thought the move that transformed the Eagles was picking up Ryan and Rioli. Having another skilful small forward to back Matera up would be pretty handy right now. Instead we play pressure forwards.
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Flag_2005 Re:So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #3

Flag_2005
Perhaps we could let Sam Sturt get a few games under his belt before we start writing off the 2018 draft...
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Roodawg Re:So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #4

Roodawg
Fair enough and apologies to Sam, but Ian looks bloody good today in his debut.
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Corporal Agarn Re:So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #5

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Ryan, Rioli and now Cameron.
Matera, Ballantyne, Schultz
Once again they've outdone us in recruiting, particularly galling in that it is indigenous youngsters, something that we used to pride orselves in developing.
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Snail So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #6

Snail
The Egirls forwards are made to look gooder by the lace out delivery from their gooder midfield.... the gooder is a result of skill training cos if you have to coach effort you may as well stay at home. As for recruitment I reckon our club has a top 8 list but a wooden spoon anchorman of a coach.
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purple kit So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #7

purple kit
Sturt will be good if he sorts out the concussion issues, plus we get Henry in this years draft.
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pollyanna So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #8

pollyanna
Yep, Sturt better than Ian Hill, Valente over Jarrod Cameron, and absolutely everyone was better than Sydney Stack. If there's anything this football club knows, it's local talent.

Oh, you meant WA talent - sorry.
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The_Yeti, Matebe, Raglan Matt, Lazza040, Corporal Agarn, R.Lyon said You Beaut

R.Lyon So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #9

R.Lyon
Stack is the one for me. Absolutely gun. And we could of picked him up with a late pick
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purplepower So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #10

purplepower
At this stage is pretty hard to judge anyone......as for some reason the development of our young talent has stalled or gone backwards...:
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The_Yeti So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #11

The_Yeti
Here's the thing when discussing who we could have drafted vs who we should have drafted vs who we did draft.

You can never compare apples with apples so any could have / should / did arguments by their very nature are completely suspect.

Some clubs are very good at bringing young players into the game and turning their potential into on field performance. Some clubs are horrible at trying to achieve the same thing.

Blokes like Stack (yes he's a genuine gun) have developed in a different environment to that at Freo. Stephenson at Colonwood was another that everybody last year expressed disappointment at not drafting. He's another gun but I doubt he would be successful at Freo. Bucks has used him in an open forward line at Colonwood and given him his head to take the game on.

Here he would likely play a game or two at half back then back to Peel.

If we had drafted Stack, Hill or Stephenson or whoever, we would likely be saying the same things about them when they don't develop like we hoped.

Development of young players into the AFL system isn't a simple process. These are blokes that need to be carefully managed on an individual basis while they find their feet in the game and then, like all players, they have to be used to take advantage of their strengths.

Whether you like the current coaching panel or not, it is impossible to make a case that we are good at developing young players. We are terrible at it and then most people can't see past the obvious poor performance and blame the recruiters for picking duds.

I cannot believe that almost every player we draft is a dud when they show so much potential before they're drafted. We either have the absolute worst luck in recruiting or we are failing to develop these players properly. I don't believe that any club could have a run of luck that bad for so long.
Egurls Suck!
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Mercury So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #12

Mercury
Yes, yes and yes, Yeti.

You get top line players in one of two ways; trade for a ready-made player or pick up the raw talent from the draft and develop it. I agree; picking has not been our problem. Developing the young talent is our issue.
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The_Yeti, Bizkit, CaptSnooze, pollyanna, Corporal Agarn said You Beaut

shane So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #13

shane
So that's why The Owl isn't getting a regular game.
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purplepower So why didn't we pick up Ian Hill again? 4 years 9 months ago #14

purplepower
An honest answer..... So what do we do?
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