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TOPIC: What really needs to change?

Tricolour What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #1

Tricolour
So the knives are out for Lyon and deservedly so.
But if he were to pack his bags on Monday morning, what then? Does anyone have confidence that the club will choose a coach who will get the job done? I can't help but feel that that our club's seemingly endless lack of success isn't just down to a bit of bad luck with coaches (or untimely injuries, or missed drafting opportunities, or biased umpires - all our usual excuses).
Our plight is thrown into sharp relief by the success of the mob up the road. Not just because of the cups in their trophy cabinet but in the way they've gone about it. Because they've won their four premierships under three different coaches. Three different coaches have taken them all the way. They are doing something right at a higher level than coaching.
Lyon promised 'sustained success' when he arrived, but it's not just down to him. We go through coach after coach, for no reward and each time we blame it on the coach, and think the next one will bring the magic formula.
I really thought the culture at the club had changed when Lyon arrived - for once, the club looked like it was willing to do anything to win. But after that one brief tilt at glory we quickly slid into the familiar territory of mediocrity again and as a supporter I feel like the club expects me to suck it up. Losses like today, and the debacle against Geelong last year, are insufferable for us (and would not be tolerated by WC without heads rolling) but we are told not to worry, we're learning lessons, it's not a reflection of where we're at, we're rebuilding.
For pity's sake, just once I want to hear Lyon, or someone at the club show some anger or remorse over the sh** their long-suffering fans are being put through!
I don't have any faith that a new coach will bring in the magic formula that turns us into a club that doesn't accept losing.
I am very pessimistic about our future as a football club. I'd love for someone to convince me there's light at the end of the tunnel.
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goodie What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #2

goodie
Best post I have read in weeks Tricolour. Fremantle are one of the most poorly run organisations in Australian sport, not just football.
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Gumnut What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #3

Gumnut
The irony of the current state of affairs is that the current list is a very good one when you include the guys on the injured list and when Ross took over from Mark Harvey a similarly good list had been built that he inherited and took to the grand final which we should have won. The list Mark Harvey had at his disposal missed out on ultimate success due to a bit of bad luck through injuries and now the same is happening to the current lineup.
Now if Ross is dumped and another coach installed there is every chance that if the current list is retained and built on through the draft that they may have a good crack at getting the ultimate prize.
The question I've pondered since our Grand Final loss is have the Ross Lyon years been a total waste of time and what may have happened if we had kept faith with the direction Harvey was taking us?? He hated losing, especially to the Weagles and was always very aggressive in his approach to coaching and his dealings with the fickle Perth media.
If we do dump Ross it's important that we make wise and carefully thought out decisions in building a successful coaching structure as well as possible player losses due to Ross'departure.
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Corporal Agarn What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #4

Corporal Agarn
True Gumnut, but perhaps he's lost many of the players and they're either not listening or actually want him to go.
It certainly doesn't appear as if they are playing for their coach or anyone for that matter.
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KingKepler What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #5

KingKepler
The stats show us having 60 inside fifties.

I don’t think it should count as an inside fifty if the ball goes straight to the opposition and gets pinged out and setup for a goal at the other end.

If that were the case we probably had about 20 inside fifties.

Ross says the stats are confusing and maybe they are when you just look at them on face value. What it does show is there is a serious problem with our method.
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Raglan Matt What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #6

Raglan Matt
The stats are a load of crap. there are so many quoted now, that you can run 2 opposite arguments from them and win both. That makes them meaningless.
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Gerovich What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #7

Gerovich
Forget the stats - watch the bloody game. Anyone can see that transition from defence/midfield to our 'forward line' is not working.
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bradox What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #8

bradox
We had 10 more inside 50 than the slime and lost by 91 points. Without commenting on the defense, who mainly got smasdhed from centre bounce clearances, it's once again our fwd line that is chronically under-performing. And all of this while, on paper, we have arguably the best cattle in that paddock that we may have ever had. David Hale has to go. He is the Ass Coach in charge of this area of the ground and has not shown the ability to have it operating to AFL standard. 3.19 ffs!
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freo00 What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #9

freo00
When the good is not so good and when the bad is not so bad it will leave you near the middle , it produces mediocrity !
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Noddy What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #10

Noddy
One problem is the age and experience gap between our best five and the rest is big and that’s been brought on by terrible recruiting planning and execution compared to the WC.
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Docker by the Sea What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #11

Docker by the Sea
I am sick of hearing it is our connection to our forwards. It is our connection to anybody anywhere on the field. We were unable to execute two skills in a row at any point in last nights game.
We were also unable to offer any resistance to their own transition. Our apparent powerful midfielders were murdered and second to the footy.
To me It looks like we may have come into the season fitter and more hardened than other teams but as other teams, have improved in this area we can’t compete. I can’t see how a pre season based strongly around skills helps, as our game plan relies heavily on a combative approach.
I am broken at the moment and my immediate reaction is to sack the coach he coached a team that turned out that tripe.
At the same time I can’t help but be angry at the playing group. I see way to many players show zero care about where the footy goes when they get rid of it. For crying out loud, I don’t need an expert AFL coach to know, I should at least look for a jumper the same colour as mine before I dump the ball in an area.
As much as some people seem to believe Lyon, despite apparently having no ability to be flexible on his game plan, then instructs his team to play another way after quarter time last week.
I would like to hear from the club this week stating that the type of performance turned out last night was garbage and every person involved with our football department is on notice. I want it done with passion and intent, and I want our club to refuse to accept that rubbish.
I remember a number of years ago, the crowd booed our team off the field after a particularly poor performance against Geelong. My memory may be clouded but I seem to remember that marked a turning point. That insipid performance last night deserved to be booed.
This club needs to feel the fury that results from having to put up with repeated floggings and unconvincing wins.
I am sick of having to watch every game without ever being confident we will win. Even when we win I never ever sit back and think we’ve got this, I am going to sit back and watch us shine. Even against the bottom team five goals up at quarter time.
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Raglan Matt What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #12

Raglan Matt
Noddy, that is classic "look, a bear" stuff. All clubs have young players and old players. All our first year players last year showed they had the skills to compete in the bigs. They have had that coached out of them, remember Banfield last year? a beacon of hope, along with Brayshaw, Crowden et al. It is not the player gap, we recruited Lobb, Cammac, B Hill, Colyer, Conca, Matera etc to cover that gap, and they are (with the exception of Hill) not the players we recruited, and before you get into me on Lobb, I include him because we recruited him to fill a gap left since Pav retired, and he has been used anywhere but as key forward.

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At the same time I can’t help but be angry at the playing group. I see way to many players show zero care about where the footy goes when they get rid of it. For crying out loud, I don’t need an expert AFL coach to know, I should at least look for a jumper the same colour as mine before I dump the ball in an area.
As much as some people seem to believe Lyon, despite apparently having no ability to be flexible on his game plan, then instructs his team to play another way after quarter time last week.


Last point first, Lyon does change his game plan after quarter time if we establish a lead, sure, it changes to defend that lead at all costs, even the cost of scoring ourselves. Every time. Remember the games which excited us as evidence of change? They were the games that the players took on because we were behind on the scoreboard at quarter/half/three quarter time.

As for the players not caring where the ball goes, the game plan says, "get the ball forward to the next stoppage", it does not say "get the ball forward to a teammate" That is why it is easy to pick apart, and that is why it does not require skills training, require team acts, require leading patterns, or any other of the important facets of successful, winning footy.
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Gerovich What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #13

Gerovich
OK DBTS, we are all feeling the pain. But what are you suggesting? Seems that you want:
(i) players to care;
(ii) players to execute better; and
(iii) crowd to boo more.

*Boo our team (no comment on booing Gaff more or not)
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Docker by the Sea What really needs to change? 4 years 9 months ago #14

Docker by the Sea
All three of those Gero would be good and add iv coach to appear like he gives a toss
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