WTB, I see your point, but to judge any player on what they have produced in the last 4 years at Freo is to judge them very unfairly. I would love to see what Logue, Darcy, Blakely and co, and even players like Fyfe, Hill and Walters could produce under a footy coach. Cast your mind back to what happened to Lukey Mac, Ballas, and various others once Lyon got them playing his style of footy, to then think what might be with these players.