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TOPIC: Over-rated?

pollyanna Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #29

pollyanna
Grover would've dakked Murphy before he got boot to ball.
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Davo Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #30

Davo
7 losses but the biggest losing margin only 25 points.

We have been in every game this year, that is hardly overrated.

Touch wood, no 10 goal drubbing coming up either.
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The_Yeti Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #31

The_Yeti
Are you actually saying that our measure for improvement is 'losing by smaller margins?'

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I always thought you measure improvement by how well you win games. I mean actually win as in kick more goals than our opponents
Egurls Suck!
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Raglan Matt Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #32

Raglan Matt
Connolly and Harvey trusted the backline to do their job all game, all season without outside assistance. The likes of Hayden, Johnno, Luke, Ibbo, Grover & co were not thinking about zones, 6-6-6, guarding space or any other distractions. All they thought about was beaing their immediate opponent (big, small, ugly or pretty boy) to the footy and getting it back forward of the centre as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Let these fellas sort out their own way in the backline, and we will see the same results. Now all you see down there is 12 outsiders getting in the way of the genuine backmen, who when they do get the footy have no-one down the ground to kick to. How many times did those old fellas of the 2006-2010 era run into a forward (from their own team, that is) except on those cold days they went for a gallop down the ground for a potshot at goal? Nowadays, every time Ryan or Wilson turn on the jets, they run into Matera, Cerra, Cammac or Cox.
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shane Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #33

shane
Yeah, nah. They were thinking about all those things. They were just better at it.

My only point was that the current backline are not there yet. Some people have been looking at the score and getting very excited about our backline, without actually watching and looking at how they're going. They are not tight enough, not disciplined enough and not structured well enough to be considered as well as some people consider them.
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Mission Man Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #34

Mission Man
You're a hard mark, Shopper. They are missing their general in Pearce.

I rate our back 5 (and visiting midfielder). They will hands-down be considered the best defensive unit in the league in a year or so and, in terms of points conceded, they are among the best now.

What burns my buns are the cheap ones out the back that Richmond, St Kilda and Carlton got, over and over - where all Freo dudes flew and no-one purple was left goalside of the contest, leaving the oppo midgets to just waltz home to goal.

It's pretty basic football but it is not completely the fault of the backs. It is a symptom of the way Lyon coaches. He demands numbers at the contest. Everywhere.

We win around-ground stoppages, for example, because we have numbers at the ball, but then we can't clear effectively or even at all - our dudes handball it to someone 30 cm away instead of out of trouble, because we never have numbers outside.

Incidentally, another reason I think Carlton got up was because Hughes fatarsed their goal-kicking Curnow. With him out, Carlton had to stop bombing it in and run it in instead. When they were bombing, Ryan and Hamling just dominated in the air. When they ran it in, we were too slow to react.

Too slow to react also in realising we were better off with Brayshaw and the Bakery in the middle. Not Old Man Mundy, who needs a goddamned rest, and Fyfe, who is the modern game's best forward, or Walters, who is the modern game's best small forward.
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hypen Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #35

hypen
Lyon is like Mondo Rock, still touring playing the same old songs to the same old people still dancing to those tunes.
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cletus Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #36

cletus
More like Dame Nellie Melba with a sore throat...

Ie out of tune, extinct, not relevant to the modern era, playing to an audience that doesnt exist any more......

But at least Nellie achieved something...
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expat Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #37

expat
... or Peter Garrett singing "Back on the Borderline"... or "Surfing with a Spoon" lol
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hypen Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #38

hypen
Head Injuries, great album.
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Davo Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #39

Davo
We got belted by over 50 points NINE times last year, including a 133 point embarrassment. We won 8 games.

We have already won 7 games and you could argue it should have been 9 or 10.

Regardless of coulda, shoulda, woulda, that is improvement irrespective of the W/L ratio.

The challenge for a Lyon coached team is not to drop off in the second half of the year. The last two losses are concerning and hopefully aren't trendsetting.
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Raglan Matt Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #40

Raglan Matt
Bloody Hughes, the lard arse.

Do we call him Clancee now?
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mac Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #41

mac
The club song should be a remake of Split Enz "25 years in a Leaky Boat" this year
I never got the "History Never Repeats" by Split Enz and still don't from what happened Sunday.
But relate to their song "I see RED" for some reason.
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moodindigo Over-rated? 4 years 9 months ago #42

moodindigo
Stop it, mac. You're breaking into my cool world.
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