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TOPIC: Bolton Sacked

pollyanna Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #57

pollyanna
Morgan, simple clarification: cache (as in secret stash or repository) or cash (as in bucks)?
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Morgan Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #58

Morgan
Option 3: Cachet - meaning the state of being respected or admired.
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pollyanna Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #59

pollyanna
Okeedokee - well that ain't going to happen without a typhoon whipping through Cockburn Control.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #60

shane
One of the issues is probably that CEOs like to tinker with the team as well, and it would leave them in the office pushing papers if they introduced it.

The closest we've probably come to a working model of that was Schwab and Connolly. Schwab seemed very hands on in the running of the football team, at least at first, and it was probably a big reason why we were able to turn things around so quickly from 2001 - 2003.

People didn't like the idea of a CEO crossing into football things though and I think when Schwab went to Melbourne he may have tried to put Connolly into that sort of model of football manager role, but he was too much of a coach to be a football manager. He's what Trump might call a high energy individual.

He was pretty innovative as a coach though, looking into things like travel schedules and human movement research and sausage sizzles. If he hadn't got done for [whatever the official term is for tanking] he might have been a good fit for that sort of job if it was all laid out so everyone knew who was in charge.

The key would be to educate everyone on how it works, and make sure the lines of . It would be no good telling Peter Bell he's the boss if all the pressure still fell on Ross Lyon. They'd also need to swap pay cheques.
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moodindigo Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #61

moodindigo
If one result of the emerging coaching merry-go-round is that I can spend less time hearing Paul Roos talk about himself on teevee then I'm in. The AFL should scrap Shanghai, commission a new team on Europa or Io and make Roos the coach there.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #62

shane
Paul, how do you think you'll handle the atmosphere at Optus Stadium this week?

Look, coaching Aquanimon the Space Octopus reminds me of when I was at the Swans in 2004, I think, and Nick Davis would often drink a lot of water before a game....
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Morgan Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #63

Morgan
Not likely Polly. I’ve made this point before, but Freo aren’t high on the list of coaching destinations. On the bright side there are only 18 AFL Head Coaching jobs available, which means we’re still a chance at getting someone good – just not the most highly sought after.

RM, I don’t know what Hird knew, but it seems unreasonable to me for a Head Coach to know precisely what Thymosin beta-4 is and how it works. For every hour he’s trying to get his head around pharmacology it’s an hour less for him to talk to players or study game tape. But someone other than the Head Coach should be across this. I think in Essendon’s case perhaps this was what they had in mind for Bomber, but I think Hird’s ego and maybe Bomber’s life circumstances meant this didn’t happen. But on paper that Thompson and Hird combination is probably a decent mix, albeit you’d structure it differently.

Shane, in the structure I laid out (which I think is similar to what you had in mind) I still think the CEO would be active on the football side. Effectively it would be splitting Bell’s role into Footy Manager and List Manager, which means you still need someone sitting over the top of everyone. I think that is probably the CEO, so they’d need to have some visibility as to how the football side was all working.
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moodindigo Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #64

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Lyon and Silvagni seen having lunch in Lygon St apparently. I presume Ross and Stephen, not Garry and Jo.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #65

shane
Bomber was the one who introduced the guy flogging them the Thymosin Beta-4.

I think a lot of clubs have tinkered with the idea of giving a football manager more responsibility. Chris Bond was given a lot of the responsibility at Fremantle, which is why Ross Lyon is able to earn so much money without having much of a understanding about how the human body works. Nor cobbling. Nor show up to pre-season training and, for a few years there, sit out the draft.

If you're not in charge of fitness, training, recruiting or any or the other important jobs that go into a football team, and if you don't have an understanding of those areas, and you're not responsible for the hiring of the people who are, then you're just another cobbler; but one who's job title has historically been considered the top person.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #66

shane
Don't rule it out, moodindigo. Garry has form.

But if they're meeting in public, Ross isn't going to Carlton. He's renegotiating his contract with Fremantle.
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DS Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #67

DS
Ross has form. He claimed he accepted Freo’s invitation to coach because St Kilda didn’t acquiesce to his request for an extension quickly enough and he wanted job security. He’s been clear he is wanting a 2 year extension at Freo. I reckon he has done that so he can use the same excuse when he goes to Carlton or North Melbourne.

That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #68

shane
Yeah but no one saw it coming. He snuck out the back door.

He'd know that just being in Lygon Street today would make the news in Melbourne.
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pollyanna Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #69

pollyanna
Give RoLy all the space he needs, if he jumps to Carltoon we'll sue him for a big chunk of his salary - a payback for the years of agony he put the Harbour Masters through. Win win, for sure.
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shane Bolton Sacked 4 years 10 months ago #70

shane
The Harbour Masters love him. He keeps the noisy football watching plebs away from their luncheons.
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