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Raglan Matt Taberner 5 years 6 days ago #43

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I think the improvement in his marking over the last weeks is because he has not been running so hard.
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bozza Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #44

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Morgan I have to disagree that Tabs takes a lot
off the table. The knock on him is between the ears but you have to be pretty head strong to do what he does on the footy field. He works his butt off and constantly gets himself in the right position. For a big forward to consistently get around 20 possessions in a game you have to respect that. He is one of the first picked and probably was last year.
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Docker by the Sea Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #45

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Good to see him going well. I think he could have come on even quicker if given greater opportunities early on, seemed to be the first dropped after poor team performances.
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FD1016 Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #46

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....had a bloody great game and one brain fade.
Get over it.
He’s turned the corner and will get better from here on in.
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Morgan Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #47

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Bozza, I'm not saying he isn't good, but to evaluate how good he is you need to weigh some exceptional parts of his game against the problems caused by the bad parts of his game. I think he's a net positive for sure, but I think there are some downsides too.

Ok, take someone like Kennedy for the other mob. He's great on the lead, a decent pack mark, a very good set shot (now) ok below his knees, is pretty clutch, has decent aerobic capacity and puts on elite defensive pressure. There isn't really anything he takes off the table. Pav was very similar, albeit his defensive pressure was terrible, but he had the added bonus of being able to play anywhere. Hogan is a forward who adds a lot to the table, and doesn't take much off.

Tabs has been a clanger-merchant for years. It's a part of who he is as a player. He's got good enough at the other parts it probably doesn't matter.

But as far as the comparison to Jesse goes, Jesse is still a better all around player, and being two years younger means I think he's always going to have Tabs shaded. Still, it's good argument to have.

I feel a bit bad for Cox though. He looked great in pre-season, and with Tabs in good form and Hogan rounding into shape, i think it's between him and CamMac for a spot, and I think for balance CamMac might just be shading him.
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hypen Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #48

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Taberner will win the Coleman.
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Raglan Matt Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #49

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Morgan, one thing Tabs has over Kennedy, Tabs is no dummy spitter. How did Kennedy's goal kicking improve from a basket case to someone who kicks most of them? The biggest cost to Freo of driving Sumich out of the coaching box is only now becoming apparent. A left foot full forward who was lambasted for missing too many shots on goal, dropping too many marks, absolutely castigated by the media and some club supporters. How much could he have helped Tabs over the last couple of years as a mentor.
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captdazza Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #50

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Another thing Tabs has over Kennedy, is Kennedy cost the slime Judd (and gained them Masten), whereas Tabs cost us less than a shaker of chicken salt.
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expat Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #51

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Here's a couple other things TABS is missing... He's missing a bald head and a ZZ-top beard.
Maybe also a full sleeve tatt.

Work on them and the rest will fall into place.
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The_Yeti Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #52

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I don't know where this clanger merchant stuff came from but Tabs has never been that.

He used to be a supremely accurate kick on goal but he's lost that in the last year or so. I'd anticipate him getting back to form though.

He's always been a good mark, especially contested marking, which is one area he is way better than JK. If you have a strong enough stomach to watch a weasels match, you can see that JK is good at getting clear and taking uncontested marks. In a contested situation, he almost always misses the mark.

I'm not sure what he takes off the table. He's got a huge tank, he's not bad below the knees and he's getting better at finding the right position to be effective. The only weakness that is obvious right now is his kicking for goal on the left foot. That can be fixed with practice
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wingman Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #53

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I think he's doing great at the moment but all the people saying he will be a star are going a bit early. When he kicks 40 to 50 goals for 3 yrs in a row then he can be spoken of in the same breath as Kennedy, Franklin, Reiwoldt, etc. or will be rated as a star but at the moment it's still potential. But I really hope he can do it.
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Morgan Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #54

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Over his career Tabs 'clangs' every fourth possession (2.7 clangers from 11.6 possessions), which is extraordinarily profligate, and his 5 turnovers a game off 18 disposals this season could still use some work.

Don't get me wrong, I think he has improved, and if people weren't suggesting he was a top 3 player /Coleman Medalist I probably wouldn't feel the need to pick nits. It would be great if he could read the play a bit better and had better burst speed to get some easier marks, had better vision to hit targets when up the field, or the agility to play on and wheel around when he got a mark, but not everyone can be Buddy Franklin. He's a big, tall bloke who can clunk a mark and run up and down a field. That's useful, but not top 3 useful.

If Tabs can play most games, kick 40 goals and place in the top 10 of the Doig, I reckon that would be a really good season.
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Quasimodo Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #55

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I agree a couple of good games does not make Taberner the equal of Kennedy or Franklin. At this stage he isn't even up to Darlings standard. In my view Hogan is showing more his marking is as good, he is more mobile and a better kick. Tabs has improved but has a long way to go and needs to play consistently and improve his kicking.
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pollyanna Taberner 5 years 5 days ago #56

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He's quicker through the sticks than a bouncing ball, that's for sure.
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