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TOPIC: Fyfe’s stretcher

Blue1red1 Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #29

Blue1red1
Justdoit, what is your problem with people taking care of someone who has just been knocked out due to copping a head hit and smashing into the turf?
Nobody can tell if he has had a neck injury, has bleeding on the brain and Fyfe was in no real cognitive space to answer questions about what was going on. So best to take precaution to ensure the best out come for the bloke I would have thought.
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docked Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #30

docked
Shane, I see what the problem is. You see, you're talking sense when we're actually dealing with the AFL here. They're too busy colouring in pictures of next years AFLX jumpers to have time to deal with the real issues.
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jusdoit Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #31

jusdoit
People are employed to look after those with injuries. They are trained to assess the risks involved.

Why are armchair critics on here so sure that a stretcher should have been used when these professionals did not deem it necessary?
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Morgan Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #32

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Justdoit, I don't know the Freo medical staff so it's always possible that they were a bit inexperienced or made a mistake in the heat of the moment; but the armchair critics on here are some of the most experienced armchair critics in the league and as far as I can tell have never been wrong.
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Corporal Agarn Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #33

Corporal Agarn
Does that include your venue/beer reviews Morgan?
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hypen Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #34

hypen
As opposed to you Morgan who seems to want to defend everyone on the basis of them being subject matter experts.

Would you like to be facing Ross Lyon if you incorrectly directed the stretcher for Nat Fyfe and as a result he couldn't come back on and you lose a game of football by a kick?

If people can't come onto their preferred football chat site to knock that around then what are we here for?
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Derby12 Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #35

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There are a lot of factors at play here, not just the immediate health risks to the player. I can't see how Fyfe staggering off was a good look, or could in any way be seen to minimise any further injury, but I am not a health professional, so that is just my "armchair" opinion.

But additionally, there has been a lot of focus on head trauma in professional and amateur sport recently, and the incredible dangers in players playing on, or coming back too early. This is increasingly true in kids sports as well, and there is the whole role modelling debate about playing with injury - Insight did an interesting panel discussion on this a few weeks ago which is worth a watch. Among them was a neurologist who talked about the increasing risk of adult injuries in children due to the increasing professionalisation of children's training, and these included concussions.

At a time where we are (as junior admin and coaches) desperately trying to get the message across that there is no such thing as a minor concussion, and all head and neck injuries should be treated as severe unless proven otherwise by a suitable qualified health professional (noting that this does not include physios), I think it sends a disturbing message to see a player who is evidently severely concussed stumbling off in the arms of trainers.

Unless the player can clearly walk of their own accord, I think that there should be a mandatory stretcher rule in the AFL - as much as anything so that it sends a clear message through amateur and junior ranks that head trauma is always potentially serious, and should be treated accordingly, no matter who you are or where you play.

That probably makes me part of the nanny state. So be it.
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docked Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #36

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Hypen, I'd rather be facing Ross after calling for the use of the stretcher, than be facing a player's parents after their son has been paralysed because I didn't call for the use of the stretcher.

But that's just my view. I'm entitled to my view and you're entitled to yours. Morgan is entitled to his.
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hypen Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #37

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My point docked was I feel the wrong thing was done by Nat Fyfe. And I think Lyon casts a very long shadow and I am blaming the culture he has established down there for that incident.
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docked Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #38

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Ah, gotcha. Apologies.
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shane Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #39

shane
The only reason you have this rule is because coaches would send the stretcher out to delay the game. It shouldn't be too hard to get coaches to agree not to cheat, at least in this regard. Then there wouldn't be the uncertainty.

They still might not have thought Fyfe needed a stretcher but there's no reason for it to even be a consideration.
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Walter the baker Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #40

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Let’s start by setting a base line. If a player is unconscious at any point he must be put on a stretcher. If you look at the footage Fyfe’s eyes were unsuccessfully trying to look through the back of his head. That should be enough to require being stretchered off.
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rogerrocks Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #41

rogerrocks
I can't believe I got this far without realising the overarching theme - it is Ross Lyon's fault. Sometimes I feel like a bit of a slow learner (a bit like Ross himself really), for not working things out quicker.
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jusdoit Fyfe’s stretcher 5 years 3 weeks ago #42

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The next thing is you will be calling for a boxer that has been knocked out being carried off the centre of the ring to his corner, on a stretcher.

There are many tomes boxers are knocked out, but we do not see stretchers required..
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