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TOPIC: v Suns

Raglan Matt v Suns 5 years 1 month ago #183

Raglan Matt
Morgan, there were numerous shots of our players between wing and half forward, on Sunday, with a vacant inside 50 in front of them, forcing them to stuff around , causing them then to turn over the footy through lack of options up forward. On many other occasions our mids were kicking to targets running away from them into the 50, indicating no-one (again) was forward as the ball was coming across the centre square. This is the fundamental flaw in Lyon's coaching.
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OGS v Suns 5 years 1 month ago #184

OGS
i auctually went to this game and what the camera`s showed was real
Roly just went back to his normal ways 7 in the back line and all forwards up to the centre of the ground when Suns had the ball in attack
Then if we won it back kick down the line and force a stopage and try and get our forwards to run back to their positions
Roly hasnt changed his game plan one bit since he first arrived and is the master of spinning it that he has as he is cunning enough to know that is what the supporters want to hear We are being conned by a master
Just hope that Belly sees through this smoke screen
Now our young players like Brayshaw and Cerra are having their flair and talent coached out of them (can anyone honestly say they have improved under Ross, who has ?)
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Derby12 v Suns 5 years 1 month ago #185

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Just a thought but - if you recruit smart footballers and delegate a lot of the decision making to players on field (I think empowerment is the current term), then when the runners are stopped, you can continue to play well and adapt to the opposition. If you work on structures as a priority, and any changes have to come from the coach's direction, then it is difficult for the players to play well if the plan isn't working.

I felt like plan A was great against the Roos and they were unable to adapt - so we thumped them. But against the Suns, they were let off the leash by Dew and played aggressive, fast footy at all costs, and we didn't have the capacity to adapt or answer that challenge until the breaks (arguably not at all). So the players went for safety around the flanks as that is the age-old fallback when things aren't going well.

But if things go pear shaped early in the quarter, then we are looking at 20+ minutes of that sort of footy. Which hurts.

It could be that the runner restrictions will have more impact on footy than 6-6-6?
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The_Yeti v Suns 5 years 1 month ago #186

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It's a valid point, derby12 about letting players, play football.

The problem with your argument is Roly does not delegate. He is the one in the controller's chair and it is done his way and only his way.....and guess what, his way doesn't work and he doesn't know how to adapt.

He listed by some as some kind of coaching genius because the game plan that he inherited from Paul Roos was partially successful with 2 mature, already developed lists. Each of those lists was blessed with very rare players in Reiwoldt and Pavlich, who were able to perform at such a high level that Roly could afford to have that extra man in defence.

Now he cannot but he does drop extra back anyway, with the foreseeable result of a structural inability to kick a winning score. But he has to keep persisting because it's the only approach that he knows how to coach.

The real difference between the Suns and North games was that against North we could get the ball out of the centre very quickly and before the forwards had time to leave the forward 50. So, under those conditions, we kicked straight down the middle to a target. We couldn't do that against the Suns, so when we did finally get clear air around the ball carrier, there wasn't the same forwards to kick to and we were forced around the boundary or backwards.

If St Kilda do the same thing and congest the ball in the centre and not allow us to clear it while we still have people forward, then next weekends's result could well be the same.

Let's just hope that St Kilda are as poorly organised and poorly skilled at Norths
Egurls Suck!
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Raglan Matt v Suns 5 years 1 month ago #187

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And the sad part is that Hogan could be a player who, with a vacant forward line in front of him, lead and win the footy against the 3 opponents that Lyon's game plan sees left inside the 50, but Lyon's game plan will not let him do that, he has to play in the middle. Leaving Walters, Schultz, or god forbid, Matera in the goalsquare. All of whom would be of value in the middle if swapped for Hogan.
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