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pollyanna Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #29

pollyanna
In reply to Noddy - our true onfield leaders are (In order):

Fwd: Ballantyne, Walters.
Mid: Mundy, Fyfe, Bradley H.
Def: A. Pearce, Wilson.

I watch both ends of the ground, but especially that end closest to me at home games.
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Noddy Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #30

Noddy
On a football ground you need experience to be a good leader, as it’s a dynamic game which requires knowledge of what’s going on to make quick decisions to address matters as they arise.

I would also argue that very good leaders have plenty of experience.
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Noddy Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #31

Noddy
RM I like your Freo passion and posts.

WCs Ben Cousins and Daniel Kerr and Swan for the Pies had great confidence and ability, but they weren’t leaders. They lacked knowledge, experience and possibly the ability to be a good leader...critical thinking and good emotional intelligence.

That’s where poor Fyfey loses out....he’s almost too damn smart for the average punter and player. Fyfe’s a younger generation Pav ...who can forget his Brownlow speech...the best so far?

IMO Cousins likely had blokes follow him but for all the wrong reasons.
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Yossarian Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #32

Yossarian
We're missing Zac Dawson down there.
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shane Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #33

shane
They're all followers. Their. Any leadership would be quickly snuffed out as insubordination. The guys on the ground are, at best, middle management.

Beveridge, like the rest of them, is terrified of giving up control.

Imagine if Fyfe or Easton Wood were allowed to make their own calls during the game instead of following instructions. It would be chaos in the coaches box. All those midweek powerpoint presentations and micro managed 36 point plans ruined. All that live data coming in and no one way to react to it. One by one they'd have a stroke.

Ross can't even handle having a second decision maker in the box with him. How would he go if Ballantyne rearranged the forward line midgame.
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Raglan Matt Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #34

Raglan Matt
My point exactly, Shane. They are not allowed to lead. Either in decision making;


( or to offer options to players kicking the footy.)
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Noddy Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #35

Noddy
Possibly that’s where it fell apart in JLT 2 in the third quarter. All of the sudden a well drilled WC did what they do and we were like a hamster in the headlights.
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FDB Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #36

FDB
Just as an aside - why doesn't Easton Wood get called by his full name?

It's Easton PHILLIP Wood, thank you very much!
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goodsteve Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #37

goodsteve
exeed, I was surprised that someone would point to our back line as a weakness but I think you raise a far more depressing point. Anyone associated with this current team under Roly will end up being seen as having questionable ability, commitment, intellect etc because all will tarred wit the same brush of abject failure........except for Roly himself of course who is coaching better than ever!
I've never been more pessimistic before the start of a season. I hope I'm wrong about our prospects.
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Raglan Matt Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #38

Raglan Matt
Noddy, I played in teams (not just footy) where the team was stifled by the lack of freedom to play the game as it presented. A game plan is a beautiful thing until the first clearance at the first center bounce. Then it becomes a race to see which team adapts to how the game is unfolding.

The reason why the Hawks, in their time, the Cats in their time, the Pies in their time and yes even the eagles, even though you put down their leaders, succeeded was because they had players who were allowed to recognise what was happening on the field, and adapt the game plan to suit.

If the coach is relying on the runner to get feedback, feed back to him, receive feedback and instructions from him (the coach) and then relay that to players on the ground, the team has no hope of keeping up with an on ground led team.

The good coaches recognise this and relinquish control during the playing time of each quarter, the bad coaches don't.
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Noddy Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #39

Noddy
That’s a good theory, I can’t imagine why Clarkson et al talk so much on the blower?
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Raglan Matt Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #40

Raglan Matt
Ordering their ham & salad rolls, and going off at the players on the ground for changing the game plan.
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Blue1red1 Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #41

Blue1red1
LOL, this new runner rule is the AFL saving money on broken handsets.

All our defence needs is A Pearce being given the new pointing glove.

Regarding Leaders, I liked that Hoges gave Ballas a spray the other day. There is someone embracing the footy game. Ballas can be a leader, a couple of sprays will jump start him and get his mongrel back. When cut free of the Roly game day static, I recon the players will have to take some responsibility and get on with the game without Loss the Ross confusing everything. No Loss the boss, and suddenly everyone will be going back to the basics of "Get Ball, give it to mate, Send it to the Goals, preferably hitting Lobb / Hoges / Tabs / Macca / Waters / Ballas / Banfield / Cox lace out on their 3 purple stripes. F that up and get to the bench, do it twice and go to Peel and have a think. Team mates are wonderful. Break time and Loss can come out and give them a summary instead of everyone going off into 15 different huddles with rowing coaches, foot massage coaches, Squeeze ma pimple coaches etc. We might even win a few games and have fun. Who'd have thought hey......
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Raglan Matt Our defense 5 years 1 month ago #42

Raglan Matt
Seriously though, Noddy, Clarkson is on the blower most of the time going off about skill errors or umpiring decisions, not about the game plan. He saves that for the breaks, when he talks to the players, not the assistant coaches.
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