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TOPIC: Twilight

shane Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #1

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thewest.com.au/sport/afl/gillon-mclachla...ssion-ng-b881124663z

I really dislike people like McLachlan who aren't very clever but think the public are morons. He'll make the decision in the best interest of the fans he says even though he's already made the decision to have the grand final under lights. If you're going to lie to people, at least have the courtesy of doing it well.
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Snail Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #2

Snail
One of the games most influential... ppfftt! He’s a VFL stooge dressed up as a turkey. In his own words it’s inevitable..... hmmm great democratic place this footy thingy.
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freo00 Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #3

freo00
It will be great to see The Dockers win the Grand Final under lights next year .
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The_Yeti Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #4

The_Yeti
I dreaded opening this thread in case Shane had gone all crappy vampire teeny bopper movie on us.

Glad it was only talking about a grannie under lights
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The_Yeti Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #5

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I was also amused by Kim Jong Gill's comment about respecting tradition. The only tradition he's respected so far is looking after Victorian clubs. I'm really not sure you can make a claim for respecting traditions when you change the rules every ten minutes.

So, he can respect the fans wishes but then he can make it better....by ignoring the fans wishes. He should have been appointed the Official Court Jester of the AFL
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Morgan Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #6

Morgan
I think technically the AFL Commission makes the decision, Gil just makes a recommendation. I can see why a CEO might be thinking about keeping the broadcasters happy, given they essentially underwrite the whole operation. It’s the Commission’s job to tell him if they consider there are more important considerations.

The broadcasters obviously think they’ll get more eyeballs later in the day, so on it’s face you could argue more people watching must mean it’s good for fans, but there are lots of fans who don’t like to see traditions trampled, and they are often the ones who care the most. It’s a tough call.

Personally, i would much prefer a twilight GF, and would be happy for the AFL to trial it for a few years.
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shane Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #7

shane
Yes, you could make that point.

However, you only would make that point if you had decided on an outcome and were trying to shoehorn in what you thought was something people wanted to hear.

It's a weak and unconvincing argument. If he's going to do it, either be upfront about it or hire someone who is good at lying on his behalf. It's insulting to keep pedalling that crap.
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Redned Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #8

Redned
So he:
i. acknowledges that supporters have polled against changing
ii. acknowledges that the decision should be based on what supporters want

then concludes that:
iii. making a decision on supporter's behalf, contrary to their expressed opinion, can be better
iv. the change will be made at some time any way, contrary to supporter's expressed opinion

that sounds like reading the first and last ten pages of a book but missing the middle.
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The_Yeti Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #9

The_Yeti
Redned,

the middle bit of the book is just money changing hands.

It's only exciting if you're an accountant...or taxman...
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goodsteve Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #10

goodsteve
Gillon is a great example of the quintessential crawler who has had the right connections, said all the right things, sucked up to the right people, and consequently got to the top of a ladder despite being no more talented or intelligent than most others. I wonder how many times he disagreed with Demetriou when he was boss?
Isn't he mates with Alexander Downer?
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TheColonel Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #11

TheColonel
Always thought the Twilight series was about bloodsuckers.
This doesn't seem any different.
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Morgan Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #12

Morgan
I know Andrew Demetriou wasn’t particularly popular as CEO, and I thought he was wrong about many things, but to his credit you usually knew where he stood. Gil is described as more collaborative, but I think in his case that’s a euphemism for wishy-washy.

If I were to read between the lines, my guess is he reckons it’s worth keeping the broadcasters happy and that a bit like with the Rugby League, once they play a few twilight Grand Finals everyone will see that it’s better - or at least not worse. He also knows that right now it’s not a popular idea.

In the circumstances where you consider an unpopular change is actually the right thing to do (or as he feebly puts it ‘inevitable’), you can either squib the decision and maintain the status quo, or own the decision, wear the flak, and trust that history will judge you as being correct. Gil is having a bob each way, and it looks a bit weak.

My prediction is that they’ll announce ‘a trial’ of the twilight Grand Final, on the basis they will ‘listen to supporter feedback and take it back to the Commission in [insert] years.’
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TheColonel Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #13

TheColonel
Simple answer.
Play it in WA at 2.30pm - Vics can watch it in the twilight.
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hypen Twilight 5 years 1 month ago #14

hypen
As a bonus though our East Fremantle supporting types like Shane and Yeti can now have their high tea GF final parties and not look like total flogs.
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