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TOPIC: Neale replacement

The_Yeti Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #43

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Here's me thinking that some people only think it's a good idea because they are unable to cope with the thought that their little tin god on wheels might not be perfect.

You can see that those people will accept anything coming out of the club without demure yet be unable to sustain a sensible argument to refute those question the logic of playing a valuable forward who is still recovering from stress creatures in a position where he will be subject to greater stress levels.

It has the same level of logic involved in playing people out of position and then dumping them at Peel when it doesnt work. However, let's not ever question anything coming from the club because.....just because.
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Bizkit Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #44

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I'm more than happy to call RL out on bad tactics, I've started many a thread doing so! Hogan pushing up the ground however isn't one of them, it's the way he likes to play, exploiting his superior abilities in order to beat opponents.

He's never been a stay at home FF although I'm sure he could play the role for periods. He's always pushed up and gotten himself involved in the play, it's what you want your champion players to do. He'll still get forward and spend most of his time there but it'd be a complete waste not to have a player the calibre of Hogan sitting in the goal square all day waiting for the ball to get there. That's a Lobb/Tabs role.

It should also be noted Hogan spent a very long time dealing with back problems which is due in large part to marking collisions against big body defenders. If you're worried about him getting hurt, jogging around a wing against blokes half his size isn't the area that should trouble you.
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Morgan Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #45

Morgan
Yeti, no-one is saying they want to put a player at risk of greater injury. They are saying there is no greater risk running in the midfield. They run the same distance these days, and probably at less intensity in the midfield. It’s a red herring.

I also said at the end of last year I’d prefer Hogan play more up the ground with Tabs closer to goal, because Hogan is better below his feet, and I’d much rather Hogan kick it to Tabs than the other way around. I’ve also said a number of times our midfield looks light on. This isn’t some justification people are just making up.

It’s fine if you disagree on positioning, but ascribing motivation where none exists makes you loom a little obsessed. Likewise, my earlier ‘different simulations’ line was meant to be a good-natured way of saying we see the world differently. You took it as a dig, but it honestly wasn’t my intention.

I just think if you’ve got Tabs, Lobb and Hogan it makes sense to look at creative ways to play them. This isn’t really that creative seeing as it’s how he played all last season to good effect.

Also, it was an intra-club game and he kicked 2 goals and gave off another in his first hit out. It’s a bit early to say it’s going to hurt his goal scoring.
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The_Yeti Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #46

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Morgan, you do the same thing time and time again. Long winded arguments, full of snippy remarks, criticising things that were never said.

If you can show me where it was said that people 'wanted to put a player at risk' I'd be very grateful. I'd be even more grateful if you dealt with what was actually said.

As for that nonsense about me ascribing motivation, I was responding to another nonsense comment that you don't seem to have any issue with, that the only reason some people don't like the move is because of who is responsible for it.

Logical arguments against have been raised and ignored because snide remarks are far more valuable in these discussions.

I had a reply to bizkit but my phone glitched. I'll redo it when I get home
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Morgan Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #47

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I think we best leave it at this yeti.

I’m sorry if you think I’m being snide. It’s not my intention. I’m also sorry if I give you the impression I’m only posting to decent Lyon and not contributing my genuine beliefs.
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Yossarian Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #48

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Wait, there's a decent version of Lyon?
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The_Yeti Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #49

The_Yeti
Yoss,

Gary maybe..oh no wait..not even him.

There might be a decent one somewhere but I can't make one
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Morgan Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #50

Morgan
Geez, you’d think the spellcheck algorithms would be able to put ‘defend’ and ‘Lyon’ together by now.
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Yossarian Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #51

Yossarian
I would have thought "defunct Lyon" might be first option for spellcheck.
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rogerrocks Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #52

rogerrocks
Sure Yeti. Except that we* don't blindly applaud everything Roly does. You would never have seen me applaud playing Barlow at half forward. I reckon you'd have to be an idiot to get rid of de Boer. Roly makes mistakes. And where I think its a mistake, I'll call it. You can paint me as generally supportive of the club, but not a blind fanboy.

*Excluding Jezz, of course.
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The_Yeti Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #53

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..and yet, I don't recall anybody from the Roly crowd wanting him dealt with over the sexual harassment that resulted in the victim losing her employment without proper compensation until it later became public.

...and I don't recall anything but support for employing somebody who did nothing to prevent a xxxx indecent assault and later testified only in support of the perpetrator.

I did see vague justifications based on how he's changed and how he's sorry even though he's never expressed one syllable of regret about his conduct or his mate's conduct.

Yeah, I'll base my comments on what actually happens, not protests that don't add up
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Morgan Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #54

Morgan
Yeti, it’s up to posters like us to lift the tone a bit this season. I know you think I can be snide and while it’s not my intention I acknowledge that’s how I can come across sometimes. If you look at your responses to DS and DoD in this post alone, you might see that you could be (and are) read in the same light.

I think we need to create a bit of airspace for others. We can be a bit suffocating sometimes. There was a perfectly good opportunity to walk away from a post that’s a bit done to death (and with me apologising!) and you again took it up a notch.

I think we both need to walk away a little earlier this year.
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The_Yeti Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #55

The_Yeti
Let me see if I have this right, if you think that I'm snippy, I should just walk away and not respond to comments addressed to me but if you're snippy and argue against points that are never made, then you're really not snippy.

Is that about how it adds up? I'm pretty sure I'm not going to go along with any of that
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Noddy Neale replacement 5 years 1 month ago #56

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It was some years ago now but a certain person on Dland pointedly told me to play the ball not the man. That was good advice, which I’ve tried to follow.
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