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TOPIC: GF best of 3 - NOOOOO!

The_Yeti GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #15

The_Yeti
What happens if one of the games is a draw and the other two games are split?

Do you get to do the whole final series over again? Does the interstate team get to host game four?

A grand final series is a silly idea but I agree with the annoyance over Victoria always ensuring their teams get advantages denied to the rest of Australia. Its still a VFL but they don't have the nads to openly admit that.
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Morgan GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #16

Morgan
I think it's incumbent on the non-Victorian teams to raise at least one hair-brained Grand Final scheme a year for the next 40 years if only to highlight the inherent, bald-faced Victorian self-interest on display by signing a contract that extends to second half of the 21st Century.

It might not lead to a change in the GF location, but it might force the AFL to look at other ways to mitigate the unfairness now contractually baked into the system for decades to come. Maybe that's more games at the MCG for interstate teams, maybe that's permitting chartered flights, maybe that's requiring (as part of the sponsorship agreement) the airline sponsor to put on extra flights to interstate GF team's fans at a reasonable price, maybe it's home final compensation system, maybe it's a greater ticket allocation for interstate fans. There are any number of things the AFL could do, short of moving the GF, to mitigate that part of fairness they whored off to the (presumed and non-tendered) highest bidder. .

They aren't doing any of those things because they don't consider there is a problem. They are wrong, and anything that puts pressure on them to reconsider that position is a good thing.
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shane GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #17

shane
I don't consider there is a problem.
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jimb2 GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #18

jimb2
Easy for the AFL to fix that. You won't be allowed to win the second if you win the first.
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Morgan GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #19

Morgan
I know you don't shane. Stockholm Syndrome is an insidious and terrible thing.
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freo00 GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #20

freo00
How could the non Vic teams ever let this get so lop sided has got many perplexed .
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Raglan Matt GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #21

Raglan Matt
The GF should be played at the MCG. It is where every kid wants to line up from 65 meters out , after the siren, to kick the goal that wins the flag, Just like Subi oval was the mecca before Freo went national.

What the AwFL needs to do however, is to fixture interstate teams to play more home and away games there, to give players experience at the ground. That is the unfair part of the equation.
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Snail GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #22

Snail
Take a leaf out of the American Football where every Grand Final is played in a different state and venue thereby denying a home town bias. BTW they also select umpires from different states. This system not only showcases the game throughout the country with the associated economic spinoff, but ensures that the fixturing in a given season does not become a factor in the result.
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Suker GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #23

Suker
Snail, that is just too sensible. 22 games and one sacred location is how we do it, and that is that.
Fairness? Stupid word.
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shane GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #24

shane
The economic spin offs of the Superbowl are amazing, unless you ask an actual economist.
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Suker GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #25

Suker
Economic impact of superbowl varies across host cities, and benefits may not be what the NFL says it will be, but they still have many cities vying for the chance to host, paying out dollars to do so.
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Davo GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #26

Davo
You can't compare NFL Superbowls with AFL Grand Finals.

Currently the NFL awards Superbowls to cities that build new stadiums as an incentive to do so. The economic benefit of hosting one partially offsets the cost of building it (but to what extent I have no idea).

But since they brought that rule in, no host city has ever played in a Superbowl in its own stadium.

An analogy is the FA Cup final which is played at Wembley Stadium every year regardless of where the teams come from. But the UK is a lot smaller than Australia and if it is a Manchester City vs Liverpool final, it doesn't cost fans $000s of dollars to get there. It's not much of a HGA to any London team either.

If you use the Superbowl analogy, the 2019 Grand Final between Richmond and Melbourne will be played at Optus Stadium. Who'd want to see that?

Neither of the above models are fair to fans of sides who want to see their team play the GF in their own city.

The UEFA Champions League plays H&A round robin and knockout games right up to the final but only has a single final in a designated location.

I say again, what local supporter would knock back the chance of seeing Freo play in a Grand Final at Optus Stadium? No one!
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purple kit GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #27

purple kit
Why don’t they do a 2 game series with aggregate score winning? Like they did in the international game a year or two ago?
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shane GF best of 3 - NOOOOO! 5 years 5 months ago #28

shane
Because that is the worst possible system of getting a good game of football. The first one means nothing and the second one is played to win the series, not the game.

They should just play one game, on a Saturday afternoon, at the home of football. It's been a proven, successful formula since Federation.
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