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Awake It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #1

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It’s a harsh system. Three young gifted sportsman, each elite in their own ways now have to find another path, at quite a young age. All three had something to offer the club but systems and structures are unforgiving, especially in the glare of television lights. I wish them all the best and appreciated what each bought to the club.
Another Western Australian living in Geelong issued a plea for help and support which came out as “I need to go home”. His management erred, probably due to their own prejudices. It is hard being indigenous even if you are an elite sportsperson. It is hard being indigenous, far from home and country, with three children, no close family support and (so it appears) not much understanding from the club. I wish him and his family all the best and hope he makes it home next year and that they all get through this year in a positive manner.
In both cases, I hope the clubs involved take on board a duty of care to their players and in the first case this duty helps three fine young men transition to a new life. I am sure they all have much left to contribute.
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maynefan It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #2

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I also think it helps to understand while a player chases the best deal he possibly can and we as fans wish they showed more loyalty to the club, the clubs rarely show loyalty back, thInk Matt DB, how could the club not see the value he adds to a club and I put Brady in that category too. It is indeed a a harsh system.
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jimb2 It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #3

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Sure it's harsh. The question is how far you want to go down the ladder keeping spots in the team for your bunch of beloved try-hards? You might disagree with an individual decision to keep or jettison a particular player but the system is based on player turnover. This isn't a country town footy club where the butcher played full forwards until he was 45 and got too fat to run.

The fact is that supporters are rusted-on and think about football in tribal and heroic mythologies. On the other hand, the guys who actually comprise the clubs and do the work, the players, coaches, selectors, football managers, etc, operate in an extremely competitive environment where scraping together a bigger set of marginal advantages over the opposition wins the day.

There's a basic clash of values there, is't there? We demand the club wins, then criticise them when they win dirty. (And want their nuts if they lose dirty. Which is even weirder since losses = wins.)
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Dockermus It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #4

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No system is perfect, but remember that no one is forced to give professional footy a go, it's a choice young blokes make.
On the downside, it's brutal, and requires clubs to recruit eager, starry-eyed youngsters each and every year, yet still maintain a mandated squad size. On the upside, the competitiveness of the system motivates the truly gifted and determined to earn their place. Some undeserving types seem to do better than other, more deserving blokes, but that's just how it is. Life can be unfair.
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Raglan Matt It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #5

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Over 25 years, Freo have looked after their players pretty well. It is only the last few years that there have been anomalies in the system.
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Rhufus It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #6

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Part of the reason the AFL is so popular is because we all realise how hard it is to a) make it and b) stay there.

When you watch these guys play, you know they are the elites of the elites. Thats what drives you in the rain each weekend to watch them.
You see how Danyle and Cam Sutcliffe tore up the WAFL and you know how good they are to be able to do that, then they struggle in comparison amongst the very very best at the next level. You see how Brady Grey tops the list in the whole AFL in kamikaze courage yet cant get a guernsey due to skills that fail under the microsecond tackle pressure of the big league.
This is why we love it. Sure we feel for those on the periphery, the fringes, the hard luck stories drive us to tears, Moras 4 ACLs were too cruel but when Johnno flicks out a foot to stop a certain goal, or T-bone nails an impossible running goal from 50m on the boundary or Ballas runs 50m into an open goal I cheered like crazy and we all erupt, its because we know its a harsh, harsh system and its coming for them all, in the end.
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Mushroom It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #7

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I guess the point is, like so many things in life, would it really be all that much less professional and desirable to play, watch or be associated with if it were less harsh?

Because it is possible, like many things in life. it just takes some vision, some balls, some leadership and some decline in profit making.
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CaptSnooze It's a harsh system 5 years 6 months ago #8

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At what point does harsh become dumb? These are young men, often needing full-on guidance.
Simpson, Yarran needed more mentoring and inclusion, not less. A bit like Kelly now at Geelong perhaps.
My view: there was some dumb stuff going on with those two. We might not have fallen of a cliff in late 2015, if we'd managed those two better.
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