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TOPIC: List size conundrum

Jason List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #1

Jason
I started thinking about this a few days ago but the report today (Fox Sports, apparently, but I can’t find the article) that Kersten might be shown the door along with Bennell, has really grabbed my attention.

My understanding is clubs need to head into the draft with a minimum of 3 selections. That means our current list of 42 (after retirements but adding Conca) will need to be trimmed by at least one more.

If Lobb joins us, that increases to 2 delistings. Add Hogan and it’s 3. But the only way Hogan is coming in now is if LN departs to BrisVegas - so that brings us back to 2.

Of the 3 unsigned players in Sheridan, Grey & Sutcliffe (in order of retention, IMHO) - two of those would very be nervous.

However, if Kersten and Bennell are cut, then at a maximum - all of the unsigned could be retained.

If we assume, for the sake of this exercise, trading in Lobb and Hogan for the following picks: Lobb (pick 11 with pick 25 coming back), Hogan (pick 5 & 25).

Much harder to work out the LN compensation but again, for the sake of this exercise, let’s say we get 5 & 18 (from the Beams trade to Collonwood) and send pick 30 back.

That would leave us with picks 18, 23, 49 & 81.

With luck we could get Hill with 18, but prob not Clark with 23 (or vice-versa) as WC have 20 & 22 - assuming other clubs don’t pinch both with earlier picks.

The real question is how many of those picks will we use in the national draft and/or save for the PSD/Rookie drafts?

Who stays and who goes?

I’ll get the ball rolling:

Sheridan (retained as a Rookie)
Grey (delisted)
Sutcliffe (delisted)
Bennell (delisted)
Kersten (retained)
Neale (traded)

I just hope one of the late draft picks or maybe a rookie spot is used on Dillon O’Reilly.
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DJKL List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #2

DJKL
Keep Grey, get rid of Kersten.
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Yossarian List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #3

Yossarian
T-Bone? Rookie?
Have you taken leave of your senses!!!
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teasea List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #4

teasea
Just noticed DeBoer in end of season photos. Maybe he'll come back as a midfield coach one day. I do prefer him to Conca ...... Can't have everything I guess.
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Rhufus List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #5

Rhufus
What about Strnadica, Meek, Apeness, Jones all those guys. Do they have contracts? If we get Hogan and Lobb then you would think at least one of those guys would get the axe.
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walba List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #6

walba
Sandilands, Darcy, Apeness, Jones, Meek, Strnadica and now Lobb. What do the Dockers know about ruckmen that no one else does ?
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teasea List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #7

teasea
Yeh but Lobb only wants to be a forward, a reason he didn't want egls. What position did he mostly play at SWan Districts and junior footy? Do we know.
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Gumnut List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #8

Gumnut
If Lobb comes in then at least one or probably 2 of Strnadica, Jones and Meek need to go. Sorry guys but we would have a lot of talls on our list then and other more valuable players and new draftees need these spot. Maybe the Rookie list saves one of them.
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Corporal Agarn List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #9

Corporal Agarn
Don't you have to be kept on a list somewhere for at least two years? Meek and Jones have only been there for one. Never understood why we drafted both of them and then decided to use Apeness as a ruckman as well.
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Suker List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #10

Suker
As great a champ Sandi has been I really think he should've stepped aside but retained in a coaching capacity.
Tommy and Sutcliffe moved on, Kersten and Grey retained.
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timmeh List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #11

timmeh
I thought we were recruiting Lobb to play a rebounding half back role?

Lobb will play as our tall forward who pinch hits in the ruck, with choice of Sandi, Darcy, Jones he won't need to be the main ruck.

Now if we do happen to land Lobb and Hogan, where does that leave Taberner, Cox and McCarthy? Tabs would surely be too tall to be the 3rd tall option, something that McCarthy would be best suited for. With other talls like Dixon and Logue plus the mentioned ruckmen, it is a really really tall team. Are we going to go with a bomb it high and hope for the best game plan now?

If we happen to land those guys, I sure hope we don't draft any more tall forwards or rucks, we need to improve our selection of mids and small forwards big time.
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Rhufus List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #12

Rhufus
If we get Lobb, I would delist Apeness and Meek.
In a years time, after Sandi retires that would leave us with Darcy and Lobb as primary ruckman, Jones the injury back up and Strnadica as the developing utility.

If we get Hogan, Tabs plays with Hogan every game.
Its between Cox, Dixon and McCarthy for the third tall spot.
I actually believe that the two main talls will eventually be Cox and Tabs and Hogan would take McCarthys more mobile position. McCarthy is the one who should be worried if Hogan does come in, he played a lot of this year further down the ground for Melbourne and is three times as effective as Cam was this year. Cam needs to buckle down this off season and pray that Belly doesnt have 8 mill ready to roll.
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Jason List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #13

Jason
My original list is accurate except I notice that Giro, rookied last year, only had a one year deal. Strnadica has been on the rookie list for 2 years but can be retained. That opens up another two spots, potentially.

I expect Lobb & Hogan to land today so unless they want to break the contracts of other players, Sutcliffe, Grey & Sheridan might all be on the way out.

Every chance of a real curve ball though, so don’t be surprised if another player or two is on the move before 5:30pm.
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Raglan Matt List size conundrum 5 years 6 months ago #14

Raglan Matt
Cox will go back to defense. ( Or as it works at Freo, he will stay in defense, not having to do the 200 meter sprints every few minutes.)
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