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TOPIC: Lachy and the elephant in the room

Detox Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #57

Detox
Great post Jason.. yes I was pleased about Gaff, I reckon there cap space would be getting a bit full too
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The_Yeti Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #58

The_Yeti
Yeah, Jason, unfortunately these things can be checked:

I'll quote your words to you

Yeti, Lyon’s done pretty well with pick 58 from 2011 - plus you can throw in APearce, Ryan, Tabs, Blakely & Langdon as players who have performed at an elite level exclusively under Lyon’s tutorage. I’d also point out that Darcy, Cox, Nyhuis, Cerra, Brayshaw, Banfield and imports Hamling & Wilson seem to be going ok as well.

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My response from the same thread:

On top of all that, how can you know that all of these players may not have done better under another coach? You can't know that but what you can know is that Lyon tries to make players into other than what they are on many occasions rather than using them to their best advantage and that is often unsuccessful

Like I said, thats not the 'yes' that you claimed. I disagreed with you that Lyon has players at 'elite' level as you claimed and stated you can't know whether they would do better under Roly or another coach. What you claimed is flat out wrong, so play the ball not the man
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shane Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #59

shane
I thought this topic was going to be an update on Steve Rosich's weight gain.
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Corporal Agarn Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #60

Corporal Agarn
Nah Jezza, you just proved that you don't get it full stop. Anybody that states that they would back in any coach even if they are a dud is really not quite with it.
Finish last say five years in a row Jezza will back you in
Criminal charge, Jezza will back you in.
Players want you gone, Jezza will back you in.
Robert Walls for coach, Jezza would back you in.
Lying, backstabbing and untrustworthy Jezza would back you in.
Don't tell me I don't get it. I've got a lot better grip on reality than you.
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The_Yeti Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #61

The_Yeti
Come on, Shane, even Rosich can't compete with Roly.

(very Roly indeed)
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Jason Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #62

Jason
Yeti, I listed about 11 players who I think have gone alright with Roly as their only coach. Not all of them are consistent A-graders to this point in time, but for the sake of the argument let’s agree that they are.

That being the case, who are the other 11 or more that make us the ‘elite’ side you claim Lyon has to work with??
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The_Yeti Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #63

The_Yeti
You changing your stance again, Jason.

You claimed he had 'APearce, Ryan, Tabs, Blakely & Langdon' playing at an elite level. I disagreed with your claim. I still do.

I merely pointed out that if you were right and they were 'elite' then he's underperformed as a coach. You shouldn't over claim things to talk up Roly. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny
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Jezza Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #64

Jezza
CA, you and most of the RB, can continue on your merry way. It’s irrelevant in my view. I’ll continue to back the FFC and everyone that represents them, up until they bend you over. I’m sure you all have an axe to grind even when the club is going gangbusters but that’s your prerogative. We’ll continue to disagree. It’s a free world. At the end of the day we all support the mighty purple.
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Corporal Agarn Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #65

Corporal Agarn
Bring up a few posts for me when I've been constantly bashed Roly? I'm not completey obliviious to what he's brought to the club and I've said I don't care who brings us success as long as it's coming soon. I, like a lot of people aren't happy with constant failure and if it means a coach must go to improve, so be it.

What annoys me more is sycophantic posterior lickers who believe every single fart that emits from anybody associated with the business and coaching side of the club, who constantly make rash predictions and statements and then backflip on them, never admitting that they may have been wrong.

Meanwhile whilst holding the staff to such over rated beliefs he can't do the same for the players, claiming that he never lays the boots in to anyone but has turned on Neale quicker than a hyena around a carcass.

And that also doesn't mean I'm any less of a passionate Fremantle supporter, it just means that I'm not fool enough to believe everything and anything dished out to me just because anyone including the Freo board tell. I might as well say Trump is great if I did.
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Noddy Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #66

Noddy
Play the ball not the man......very funny Yeti.
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The_Yeti Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #67

The_Yeti
yeah Noddy, but I guess its ok when it comes my way but no good when I respond. Right?
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Suker Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #68

Suker
Oooh...all this talk about farting, licking and rash...an itchy mix. Thanks Randolph, a lovely thought to finish off the weekend.
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Dockerplus Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #69

Dockerplus
It’s upsetting to know that one our best players of the past few years has decided to leave the team. Whatever the reason he wants out will probably be staying with him anyway. We thank him for his service while he was at Freo but once he puts on an opposition’s jumper he is fair game on the field. We can remember the good times when he played for us but essentially he will be doing his best to plot our downfall when he plays against our boys.
Off the field the players can be buddies but once they cross the line each to their own side. Its the game we love.
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rogerrocks Lachy and the elephant in the room 5 years 6 months ago #70

rogerrocks
Yeti, I see no problem with Jason's stand. He's listed half a dozen pretty decent players as "elite". You've said that if this was true Roly's underperformed. That doesn't follow. Half a dozen very good players does not make a winning team. You said that you disagree that the listed players were "elite", so presumably we have a team full of numpties and Roly how outperformed to get the wins he has?

I'm really confused. Have we got a good list and Roly is underperforming, or a bad list and Roly is underperforming?
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