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TOPIC: The Pressure's On In 2019

Drubbing The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #15

Drubbing
If you're going to try and put that down to an umpires win, you are truly desperate.

I had no plans to watch, I had some drains that needed unblocking...but events conspired in a conspiracy of evil proportions to make it so. At least I got free food.

I saw some pretty ordinary umpiring for both sides, and the mags seemed to want to let things play out rather than get whistle happy. Don't you want less ump action in a GF?

If anything, the howler of the day was the Runner who gave away a free and a goal in a tight game, when they were trying to wrestle momentum back.
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Raglan Matt The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #16

Raglan Matt
So you think the block that allowed Sheed to mark with 2 minutes to go was consistent with the decisions against Cox, (several) and the free against Varcoe for backing into the pack in a marking attempt???
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Hamihill The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #17

Hamihill
In a tight game in the last quarter why wouldn’t you man up at the centre bounce after kicking a goal and at least continue the stoppages
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Gumnut The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #18

Gumnut
Top marks to Lethal Leigh for spotting the elephant in the room and calling out this obvious game deciding decision. I'm sick of this situation where umpires are considered infallible by large sections of the media. This decision DID change the result and anyone who states otherwise clearly has no clue about football. It just sucked the life out of the Pies and there was no way back.
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cletus The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #19

cletus
MThe decision was incorrect - but they need to be cut some slack...it was pretty hot in the oven in the last 15 minutes. Those last 10 were pretty intense. Mistakes are gonna be made ...and unfortunately those mistakes favoured the eagles.

Will stand corrected, but thought the DOOB was a call that required more discretion, given that (I think) it was the only one called all day. And the 50m was also a bit pathetic.

Those 2 calls change momentum, they affect the match more.

However, all that being said Collingwood got 2 quick ones at the start of the 4th Q. If they ‘dug deep’ at that point and got a 3rd, they “ice”that match. They didn’t’ and the rest is history.

And - as identified by Buckley - little things will haunt some players. DeGoey’s checkside option for a point when he had time and space to do a less selfish drop punt, was interesting to say the least.

And (I think Drubbing identified this) Maynard carrying on after ‘the block decision’ - whilst justified - was not something you should be doing when you are a point up with a few minutes to go in a GF.

But, to me, Collingwood lost that game when they went defensive at about the 10 minute mark of the last quarter, and they started kicking it backwards & sideways. They needed to keep attacking, and they took the foot off the pedal. Unfortunately we see Freo do this a heck of a lot, and it has cost us many games in the past.

In fact, I’d argue that switch in focus costs more games than it wins. And, I reckon its the switch to defensive/protecting the lead play, is something good teams look for when they are behind, and invariably step their attack mode up a gear.

Somewhere thered be a stat to prove or disprove this, but I reckon Collingwood added “1” to the tally yesterday...
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Raglan Matt The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #20

Raglan Matt
Your point about the defensive mindset change is a good one Cletus, and it is what we saw in 2015 at Freo, it then became a feature of our game even when we are behind. If you are scoring the opposition are not, and it becomes the best form of defense.
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Jebediah55 The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #21

Jebediah55
RM; Varcoe pushed back and clearly infringed, I called it even before the umpire, so had no problem with it, If he had planted his feet ala basketball he would have gotten the free, but he chose to push back and deservedly got pinged. As to the Yank he was clumsy throughout the first half and could have give away more free's than he did! As I said in another thread I hate the slime but this was a great GF and the better team won!!
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Gumnut The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #22

Gumnut
Geeze, is this the Flying High website?? There's a lot of love for the blue and gold going on here!
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Corporal Agarn The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #23

Corporal Agarn
In true Dockerland tradition this post has gone off track. It was originally about coaches under pressure to improve and Roly is right up there among those.
I'd forgotten until I read Drubbing's post on another thread that because we have paid him so much(2nd highest paid coach?) and for so long we can't afford to terminate his contract.
Is 2019 or 2020 the last year of his contract? Does that mean if he was sacked that we are restricted on how much we could offer a new coach?
So perhaps the pressure is not on him at all which is just another very sad Freo situation.
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Gumnut The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #24

Gumnut
I think 2020 is his last year so if we carp next year and sack him we have to pay a year. After watching the Weagles success this year, I'd be willing to write that off, pay a less famous coach a lot less and minimise the damage and wasted years on the playing list. He's so far tossed the playing careers and aspirations of Sandi, Johnno, Mundy and others down the toilet so far.
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Jason The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #25

Jason
I think the result yesterday only increases the pressure on Freo and it’s coaching staff.

Roly’s contracted until 2020 - so if he were sacked today we’d have to pay out his last 2 years and that would be included in our football operations ‘soft cap’.

But I feel that should we be as uncompetitive against top 8 sides, particularly away from Perth, and not in genuine position to contend for for a finals berth by mid-season - Roly won’t see out his final year.

The financial hit won’t be as significant if it happens about this time next year.

Seeing how our track record of recruiting ass coaches as head coach has been failure followed by failure, I hope someone like Clarkson is available. Funny (not) how we have struck out in that regard while WC has ended up with Premierships from their last two Assistant to head Coaches.

Perhaps 5th time is the treat for us?? 4 untried coaches for a total of 3 final series in 17 seasons with one Prelim the highlight. One experienced coach for a total of 4 final series in 7 years, with 2 Prelims and a GF the highlights.

But I reckon we’re more likely to get a ‘Bolton’ rather than a Beveridge or Simpson based on our luck and history.
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Quasimodo The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #26

Quasimodo
Jason I agree Ross will be toast by the end of next season, I predict he will be gone at the bye. Our next senior coach will be Peter Bell. I hope I'm I'm wrong.

The guy we need to get over here is Luke Hodge he is the Kwisatz Haderach of tge AFL coaches development program.
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Gumnut The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #27

Gumnut
On our expectations for next year, I see finals or very close a bare minimum with a full tilt at a flag in 2020. Anything less for me next season doesn't cut it and if we're not pushing the top 8 by half way then sorry Ross you're out of here and given the Harvey treatment. If it was good enough to be ruthless then, then it's doubly appropriate now given his lack of success in recent years. I'd even be tempted to bring in a couple of likely future coaches like JLo or Brett Kirk who may be able to take over if the worst does eventuate. They could then be well placed to hit the ground running to take over full time in 2020 should things not improve.
Sorry Quas but Bell is not a coaching option. He hasn't shown any inclination to wanting to coach and is best suited in his new role. Any thoughts on maybe Jarryd Roughhead in a trainee role.
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goodie The Pressure's On In 2019 5 years 6 months ago #28

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Peter Bell should sit everyone down as soon a possible and read them the riot act. Then, in six months time when he’s settled into the position, he needs to start firing people.
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