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expat 211 5 years 7 months ago #15

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When I was watching the game, I thought "gee Bucks really knows how to play his 211" and if we get Lobb then he should be solely a forward target and what a pair Tabs and Cox would become alongside 207.
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Raglan Matt 211 5 years 7 months ago #16

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When watching the game, I noticed how Cox took most of his marks, leading from the full forward line towards the 50 meter line. Bucks sure knows how to set up a forward line.
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rogerrocks 211 5 years 7 months ago #17

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And Melbourne expected slime forwards to lead like that, and they sat in front of them. And the slime kicked the ball over their heads so that the dees defenders had to run backwards and try to spoil the forward who hadn't bothered leading. Its horses for courses RM - yesterday WC were good enough to spend a lot of their time not leading.
We need to play together enough over the next two years that our players can adjust the game plan on the fly.
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Morgan 211 5 years 7 months ago #18

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That sort of structure - leading from the square and a total clear out - relies on physical advantages of the forwards to work. Which one of our forwards would you have leading from the square?

Collingwood saw a deficiency in Richmond’s defence and exploited it with a physical freak. It will probably never happen again, but well played by them.

It was also dud coaching by Hardwick. Where the hell was Nankervis while Cox was marketing over the top of blokes a foot shorter than him?
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Corporal Agarn 211 5 years 7 months ago #19

Corporal Agarn
Probably trying to man up on Grundy.
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shane 211 5 years 7 months ago #20

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It was dud everything by Richmond. Nathan Wilson wouldn't have let that happen in his backline.
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Straddo 211 5 years 7 months ago #21

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And Lo, it was on this day that Shane did declare that Wilson was now the custodian of the fabled Fremantle backline. The trusty stalwart of MJ nothing more than a distant memory.

And so it shall be told.
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Corporal Agarn 211 5 years 7 months ago #22

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Well he's completely jumped off the T-Bone train. Not to mention freezing out the Ice Pick as well.
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cletus 211 5 years 7 months ago #23

cletus
Morgan.... 'which one of our forwards would you have leading from the square' ??!!!

Bloody well all of them !!! That is precisely the point , and I cant see why you & Jezza dont think/get that it is a concept that could/might work. ?!

Tabs could easily lead like that , as could Cox and Mcarthy , and anyone else that has been meant to be down that way in the previous three/four years. Lot of people banging on about Zac Clarke at the moment ...well I'm damn sure he could have played like that if he was allowed/instructed to.

There is nothing intrinsic about Freo that excludes us from doing this - and Cox's(the Collingwood one) complete inexperience of the game - proves it has nothing to do with experience.
In fact, what USofA Cox is doing, indicts our coach's gameplan as over complex and foolish.

Cox is doing a very simple, very repeatable, very pragmatic thing for a bloke of his size and experience, and it has got me absolutely jiggered why we would not be doing the same with our inexperienced - perhaps low confidence - forwards.

Keep it simple, make 'em lead up at the ball, and give them a chance to use their natural attributes. A player does not have to be 211cm tall for this ploy to work.!!

Making 'em run around like giddy goats is not helping their confidence, forward skills, or progression to top flight players at all.

To imply that our forwards could not do this (ie lead out from the goalsquare) is a ridiculous statement, and attempts to defend a sub-moronic gameplan that ought not be defended...
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Straddo 211 5 years 7 months ago #24

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The issue isn't the forwards, yes we've got some big guys who on a lead can grab a mark, it's the delivery which makes this impossible for freo. Big guy makes a lead, midfielder kicks it 10m to his right and the more nimble defender changes direction, waltzes on over and gets an easy rebound...

time..

after time...

after time...
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Morgan 211 5 years 7 months ago #25

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To mark the ball on a lead you need a few things. You need acceleration, speed, timing, good hands and strength. You can probably substitute some of the speed if you are really tall like Collingwood's Cox. They weren't really leads as such, the were more giant gaps that Collingwood set up for Cox to amble into as the Pies just kicked it high in the air.

But let's assume we were playing Richmond on Friday night. I'm not sure who Rance would have taken, but probably Tabs, as he's probably the most likely to take a mark. I would suggest kicking to Matt Taberner on a lead with Rance marking him is one of the least efficient forward entries you could ask for. Rance would towel him up 95% of the time.

So, you've got someone like Grimes or Asbury marking Brennan Cox. Both are quicker than Cox, and Cox's burst speed is terrible compared to those guys. Again, kicking to Cox on Grimes leading from the square is a low-percentage play.

I quite like the idea of CamMac leading at the ball, but its not obvious he's better than Grimes, and he's not able to get the ball the way (Collingwood's) Cox was able to in a congested forward line. He's better value up the ground.

So I just can't see how it would work.

Our forwards have potential, but they aren't the physical specimens Collingwood has. Watch de Goey - who is roughly Pav's height - accelerate away from his man on a lead. Watch Stephenson do the same. Watch Hoskin-Elliot elevate for the ball in the air. We saw what Mason Cox can do with space in front of him and the ball lobbed. Ge's not just tall - he went up and got it. Collingwood has so many weapons and they isolated the weapon in Cox that exposed their lack of genuine height in the backline.

We just don't have the same weapons. Tabs and Cox can kick goals, but you need to kick it in the right airspace for them to use their judgement and in Tabs case his height. Both are better running around and then getting to the right spot than they are leading from the square.

I would love for us to have a genuine elite key forward leading from the square. We just don't have one in our side.
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Raglan Matt 211 5 years 7 months ago #26

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What the Pies did Morgan, was to kick to the advantage of their forwards, high for Cox, and on the attacking side for the other players, who were leading at the kicker and to space. Because Freo are running all to the same spot back into the 50, we don't see the players upfield able to kick to advantage, or the space available for the (non-existant admittedly) player to lead from the square.


The hardest pass to nail, is kicking to a player running away from you. If you spend your training running rather than practising kicking skills it is even harder, yet that is our strategy. Kennedy and Darling both led at the player with the ball most of the game. If they did not get the footy it came to ground for their smalls to attack the goals.


Watch the Pies this week, all their forwards will be leading at 45 degrees or straighter to the kicker, and McGovern and Hurn will be left running behind Cox, Hoskin-Elliot, De Goey and co. If Collingwood show the same efficiency with handball and kicking in the mid-field, the eagles won't get silver service up forward and will struggle. Had Melbourne nailed their handpass to the running player in the first quarter against the eagles, it would have been a very close game. I reckon Buckley will be rubbing his hands together with the thought of putting the same pressure on the eagles that he decimated the Tigers with.
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Jezza 211 5 years 7 months ago #27

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Cletus, big Cox had a day out. The American was tamed when the Slime beat them here 2 weeks ago. I like our forwards to be the 191-192cm mids, like the Pavs of this world, and De Goey is slowly making his mark. Look at the Bont or even Danger or Ablett. Get those goal scoring mids in our forward line and you won’t need a Cox etc. Everyone thinks that JK and JD are the difference in Saturday’s GF. Well it’s been a decade since they both paired up. Maybe it’ll be their day, but if big Coxy has another day out, I’d be speechless.
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The_Yeti 211 5 years 7 months ago #28

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Morgan,

To take contested marks, you need to be able to judge the ball in flight and have good hands. If any of what you said was true then Tabs wouldn't be one of the leading contested marks in the game. Not so much this year sue to injury but he topped the AFL average contested marked per game in 2017. In his final two years at Freo, Matt Pavlich was behind Taberner in contested marking.

You don't need acceleration, speed, timing and all the rest you claim. Tabs and Cox have what it takes to take the marks in the forward line. What makes it harder for them, is they are not in a position to take those marks often enough because they are not playing in a system that keeps them forward.

You are saying this that are completely untrue to justify our poor performance that is caused by our methods not our abilities. Sometimes I wonder if you even watch our games.

The breakdown with Tabs and Cox is their kicking on goal, which is simply a skill issue. Tabs, in particular, has shown he can kick straight but when you don't practice your skills, you lose them.. They're still taking plenty of marks though which shoots holes in the nonsense you posted.

Put them in a team where skills are a focus, there the game plan isn't defend, defend, defend and maybe score occasionally and they would be returning much better figures.

Oh and the last time Tabs played on Rance he took 5 Contested marks in a team, that was smashed.

In spite of you claiming we don't have the weapons, what we don't have is the system to get the best out of them. Its stupid to have a system that doesn't promote scoring and then somehow blame the players for not scoring.
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