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TOPIC: Luck of the draw

Quiexo Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #1

Quiexo
www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-29/luck-of-t...-the-easiest-fixture

By the look of things, turns out our draw this year wasn't the easiest, judging by the number of games we played against top 8 and top 4 sides...
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Docker by the Sea Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #2

Docker by the Sea
As much as they try to balance out the draw with ladder position from the previous year in an uneven number of games it is impossible to get this right.
The fact that we play West Coast twice every year will always slant this number dependant in both sides relative strength.
At the beginning of the year both games looked very winnable.
We definitely played our part in shaping the top four.
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shane Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #3

shane
It's also not that accurate to say someone had a difficult draw because they played teams in the top half of the ladder. That can only really work with the assumption that everything else is equal, particularly the abilities of all the teams.
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Raglan Matt Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #4

Raglan Matt
Percentage wise DBTS?
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SaltyDog Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #5

SaltyDog
I am of the very unpopular opinion that playing the Derby just once a year would really make it meaningful. I know this will never happen due to revenue, but what a game it would be. Imagine opposition supporters trying to get tickets, and the build up during the week would be awesome
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Awake Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #6

Awake
Champion Data’s 2018 fixture rankings, worst to best:
1. Fremantle
2. Richmond
3. West Coast
4. Hawthorn
5. St Kilda
6. GWS
7. Melbourne
8. Adelaide
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Essendon
11. Carlton
12. Brisbane
13. Geelong
14. Sydney
15. Port Adelaide
16. Gold Coast
17. North Melbourne
18. Collingwood

Note that Collingwood had the easiest fixtures and made the eight. We could guess that they will disappear in straight sets in the finals. Note also that Hawthorn had the fourth hardest draw and finished in the top four making a Richmond - Hawthorn GF a distinct possibility. However a Richmond - Eagles GF would be slightly more likely. Then there is Melbourne - a reasonably hard draw...
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freo00 Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #7

freo00
Aren't Hawthorn in a rebuild stage , Oh that's right they are always rebuilding cos that is how it is suppose to be done .

silly .
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pollyanna Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #8

pollyanna
I reckon we should have 4 derbys a year (with a decent coach) and play face breaking footy, literally and figuratively. But that's just me.

Given that we bought a game (GC), didn't freeze in Tassie or TonyAbbotsville, we had a very poor year. It had nothing to do with fixtures, six day breaks (hardly any) or time slots. We were equally hopeless to almost any opponent, top eight or not.

Except Carltoon - we were bloody magnificent playing them.
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Raglan Matt Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #9

Raglan Matt
For half of 1 game, and about 1 and 1/2 quarters of the other game, Polly.
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Jason Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #10

Jason
Awake, does that list mean we had the hardest draw of all clubs??

I find that remarkable, even taking into account 3 teams changed in and out of the top 8 this year (Adelaide, Port & Peptides for Hawks, Collonwood & Melbourne).

As for the ‘rebuilding’ Hawks - it’s pretty easy to bounce back when you can poach the best players from other teams (think Tom Mitchell, O’Meara, Henderson, Frawley) and not have to rely on the draft and the amount of time it takes to get the kids up to AFL standard. But so long as Richmond doesn’t go back to back I don’t care who wins (ok, I lie, not Weak Coast either).
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guy smiley Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #11

guy smiley
You can't criticise the draw for being tough after the event. The draw is what it is when it's released. You look at it, speculate wildly, sell a shedload of ads and clicks based on that and then the season happens regardless.

DakhaBrakha.
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Awake Luck of the draw 5 years 8 months ago #12

Awake
Yes Jason that's right. Fremantle and Richmond had the toughest draws, Collingwood the easiest.. It was calculated at the start of this season, not long after the draw was released, and based on many factors including travel and relative finishing ladder positions.
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