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Morgan Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #29

Morgan
We’ve delisted 70 odd players in the last 10 years. Menagola was a miss, but we weren’t the first to miss. MdB and Barlow might have been nice to have around, but we have enough good veterans in the team like Mundy who probably contribute more on the field. You’d probably have to go back to Roberton for a guy who turned out to be useful, but he was partially let go on compassionate grounds.

I don’t mind if people want to bring up Menagola all the time, but can you also do me a favour and name the two-lists worth of spuds we delisted who never played again? People are very keen to remember the misses, but people were certain blokes like Michie, Broughton and Balic would come back to haunt us, and they very rarely do.

Here’s a short list of players from the last 10 years I quite liked who we delisted who I thought could have been useful AFL players: Gilmore, Ruffles Sibosado, van Berlo, Faulks, Mellington, Menegola, Smith, Duffy and Hannath. None of those players made anything of themselves at other clubs.

I hope Collins bucks the trend and forges a wonderful AFL career, but if he does that will make a couple of misses out of 70-odd. I don’t think that is a cataclysmic failure of list management. Of course, even if people accepted that, I’m sure they could say those players should have amounted to something and therefore it was a failure of development.
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The_Yeti Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #30

The_Yeti
blockerhall,

I think we could all cut the list managers a little more slack with their mistakes if we had 4 premierships in a decade to fall back on. Failing that, the list managers probably need to wear their mistakes in full.
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Grub Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #31

Grub
I reckon you could get a half decent squad out of ex GWS players and I think Carlton would like that Gowers kid back again.
It’s a bit like draft picks - you win some you lose some and you can cherry pick good or bad decisions to support your argument if you are that way inclined.
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thecheg Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #32

thecheg
The point about Menegola was that we never gave him a shot at the big time whereas others, like Collins, at least got an opportunity.
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freo00 Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #33

freo00
Collins had a really good shot he had 14 games in 2 years .

We got him in 2015 then SAM COLLINS WINS 2017 DUDLEY TUCKEY MEDAL .

He is a crap player !

Let's delist him .
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thecheg Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #34

thecheg
Thanks 00, stand corrected
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snoop Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #35

snoop
Morgan - we're good at identifying talent to delist? Or in the last 10 years we recruited 70 players who were not good enough?
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freo00 Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #36

freo00
We are good at recruiting players that could be crap and good at delisting players that are or could be good .

That sounds about right .
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freo00 Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #37

freo00
How many time can they get it wrong .
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darthmarto Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #38

darthmarto
Keep watching this space ...
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Jason Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #39

Jason
So he’s ‘improved’ his kicking efficiency to 67.6%.

That means he misses the target every third kick - not exactly elite AFL level - and it the back half turnovers usually result in a score against.

Maybe he’s just one of those blokes that dominates at WAFL/VFL level but can’t make the step up to AFL. We’ve sure had our share of those.

If he gets another go somewhere else good on him, if he turns into the defensive ‘Tim Kelly’ of 2019 - even better for him.

Plus it will give more ammo to those ‘supporteders’ on here who seem to criticise pretty much everything and anything to do with the Fremantle Football Club circa 2018.
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pollyanna Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #40

pollyanna
Baloney - had a clash with RoLy and was given the ol' heave-ho. Very straightforward, wasn't the first and won't be the last. Good size and better stats than McMacca up the road. That's the facts, spin it into any wool you want to cover it up.

Good on him, he escaped and should get another gig in the bigs.
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The_Yeti Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #41

The_Yeti
...as for supporters criticising the club, the alternative seems to be swallow anything thats dished out, even when its clearly weasel words. I'm guessing only some of us have standards.

It's good that Collins has improved his kicking stats. Along with his very good reading of the play and intercept marking, he should do well if given a second chance.

My big fear at the moment is we might be doing it all again with Strnadica. He's been performing well enough at Peel and apparently performing better than Jones but can't get a look in under Roly. For a bloke who parrots on about play your way in, play your way out, he's very inconsistent with that. Some blokes can't seem to play their way out and some can't play their way in.

To me thats Roly signature feature....talks a good talk but doesn't walk the walk.
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Docker 26 Sigh 5 years 8 months ago #42

Docker 26
I'm a big fan of Strnadica, he's a good size and likes to throw his weight around. He just doesn't have a tank yet even at Wafl level. Fingers crossed he gets a good preseason in this year. Dixon looks the good as well as a pure lead up forward for an 18 yr old. I'd love to have the problem of too many tall forwards in 2 years time.
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