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TOPIC: Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy

Grub Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #71

Grub
Or NicNat
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Mike Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #72

Mike
Very often the measure of whether someone has done a 'good job' or not is subjective, and involves a whole bunch of unquantifiable perceptions. In professional sport, thought, things can be objectively measured:

I. We are currently 13th, with 8 wins from 20 matches; this will be our third consecutive losing season, and across the last three years we have 18 wins from 64 matches (a very ordinary 28.13% winning record).
II. Our first draft selections (not all first-round picks) between the 2010 and 2016 drafts (inclusive) - players who clubs are naturally inclined to invest a fair bit into, including games not on merit - have managed a total of 210 games, out of a possible 736 (regular-season matches only; an abysmal 27.3% playing rate).
III. By contrast, players who we have delisted that have subsequently been picked up by other clubs in that period have played a total of 143 games, of a possible 278 (a playing rate of 51.4%) (this increases to 193 of 342 if we include Sam Menegola, which I am prepared to acknowledge would be unfair).
IV. This year we have played before an average home crowd of 41,808 (41,043 if you include the Round 3 match against Gold Coast) - on average, we have 11,184 fewer people at our home games than Weak Coast.

Ultimately we have a lot of improving to do, in every area.
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blockerhall Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #73

blockerhall
Ah Shane, its funny 'cos it's true.
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Corporal Agarn Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #74

Corporal Agarn
Morgan, if all those other clubs you mentioned as having advantages that we don't, why is then that WC can always manage to perform better than we do on the field? They have the same constraints that we do.
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Detox Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #75

Detox
I actually think the rebuild is going ok.. I understand some people would have expected better this year but as the age profile got way younger this year and we won the same amount of games as last year I think we are tracking ok.. I suppose it’s down to expections..
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Morgan Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #76

Morgan
I don't know about 'always' CA. I think in Lloyd's time we made the finals most years and made one GF. West Coast in that time has made the finals most years and made one GF.

We've gone in different directions the last two years, but that happens sometimes. Have they really performed that much better than us that it's outside of a margin for error / better resources?
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Corporal Agarn Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #77

Corporal Agarn
No I do think they have done better and am interested as to why.

Us - Them

2011 - 11 - 4
2012 - 5 - 6
2013 - 2 - 13
2014 - 6 - 9
2015 - 3 - 2
2016 - 16 - 6
2017 - 14 - 8
2018 - 13 - 2

And as for not "always", I'm not sure if you are serious. Since 1995 we have missed the finals 16 times, and they have only missed 7 times.
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Raglan Matt Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #78

Raglan Matt
CA, the eagles, in that time and before, have been given advantages we never got, have had the benefit of a WAFC who seemed to side with them not Freo, and have been prepared to go to lengths on, and off, the field that we have not been prepared to stoop to, so I do think we have not had the same deal that they have.
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Gerovich Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #79

Gerovich
I did look for sarcastica font but couldn’t see it. Still can’t.

But when we are looking at our onfield performance we are considering whether our list is good enough, and whether the coaching staff is good enough. Given our results, I don’t think both can be true.

For what it’s worth, I have more faith in the quality of the players than I do in the quality of the coaches.
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Grub Brad Lloyd to carlton as head of footy 5 years 8 months ago #80

Grub
Hi Brad

Can I come too?

Lots of love,

Ross
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