And when you look at WAFL players you overlook mature agers like Banfield and Kelly. Guys like Sutcliffe, Sheridan and maybe even Hughes, Tucker and Duman are not going to get much better than good WAFL players but you have to stop being so damn shortsighted about young talent on our list, especially the big guys who frequently don't mature until about 24 or 25 years old. All we seem to be suggesting is trying to pick up players we overlooked first time around and paying overs for them. Even thinking of trading Darcy or Cox is sheer lunacy and we will never achieve anything with that type of attitude. Get the picks right the first time and develop our own stars. We could have drafted both Mitch and Jeremy McGovern but overlooked them.