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TOPIC: Voluntary Red Card

Raglan Matt Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #15

Raglan Matt
You only have to look at the inconsistencies in the application of the red and yellow card system in Test and Super rugby to know that it will only create another level of inconsistency and controversy. There is a video review official who looks at these incidents and in the season just gone, 2 deliberate elbows to the head were looked at and cleared by the VRO. I think both were later suspended by the tribunal. Their were also a couple of instances of red cards being given which the Rugby Administration had to admit later were not red card offences (not even yellow card in 1 instance.) These change the result of the game. I shudder to think what the likes of Margetts and the 2 umpires who were looking in the general direction of the incident on Sunday could do to Freo with red cards.
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guy smiley Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #16

guy smiley
I knew you'd play that card.

I follow rugby, have done for years. I chat online with referees and ex players, some of them internationals. The 'controversies' over cards is media fuelled fan based ignorance 99% of the time. There are very, very few instances that forensic examination along with really solid knowledge of the Laws of Rugby don't come out supporting.

There will always be subjective observations. Adding real time video feedback and the assistance of an off field official would reduce the subjective aspect of some on field decisions. The technology is available. The willpower to do so isn't.
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docbert Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #17

docbert
Simpson would have sent Gaff back out on the field hoping that one of the Dockers players did something to Gaff that would have drawn attention away fro Gaffs hit on Brayshaw, or at least could have been used to make Gaffs hit seem justified.
You people aren’t cynical enough. ;)
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Raglan Matt Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #18

Raglan Matt
Have a look, GS at Moody and Franks's hits in the super rugby season, and the red card on the French player in the June tests. All were mistakes, and these are not isolated instances.

Video evidence off field cannot even get it right with forward passes or try or no try. We see the same in cricket video decisions, it is still subject to the interpretation of the official and does not get it right any more than before the video replays became law. In all cases the call for the video replay came to prevent the blatantly obvious mistakes from standing, and in all cases it has led to more and more micromanaging of decisions and less responsibility taken by the officials on field. Look at the goal reviews in footy.
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guy smiley Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #19

guy smiley
I follow the Crusaders man...

LOL. It never happened.
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Raglan Matt Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #20

Raglan Matt
Yeah, I get the chocolates, I guessed right.
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guy smiley Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #21

guy smiley
9 titles.

9 titles from 22 years of competition.

Feel my awesome. Look at the shadow I cast.
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Raglan Matt Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #22

Raglan Matt
Helped by the fog, in more ways than 1.
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rogerrocks Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #23

rogerrocks
Morgan, for a thought balloon that is a brilliant idea.
The drama would be awesome. The coach and the public find out that a player has been cited. If the coach thinks the ump has overreacted, they leave the player on, safe in the knowledge that the MRP will throw out the charge. If the coach is at all scared, the pull the player and live with the disadvantage. All the while, the big screen could show a picture of the player with a countdown clock showing the time remaining until they need to be pulled or face the consequences. Given that the spectators need to be kept in the loop, the incident would have to be played a few times on the big screen
The key point is that it greatly increases the drama, and given that the AFL hate drama, they won't like it. Unless they realise that much as we all love a good clean game of footy, we also love drama, and they will make more money from the drama.
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Morgan Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #24

Morgan
I’ve also never understood why every other bloody team the thug was scheduled to play against should get the benefit of his absence.

A suspension that long they should at least save a game of the suspension for the next time his team (whoever that is next year) plays Freo.
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Alvin Prpl, Nodgey, rogerrocks said You Beaut

rogerrocks Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #25

rogerrocks
Go one further Morgan - let Brayshaw choose the 8 games that Gaff has to sit out.
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Raglan Matt Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #26

Raglan Matt
Go another step further and let Dockerland choose the games. We are good at consensus here.
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Jason Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #27

Jason
When it comes to matters of hatred towards the Weak Coke Eagles - you're bang on the money.

When it comes to ANYTHING else - not a hope in hell....
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Gerovich Voluntary Red Card 5 years 8 months ago #28

Gerovich
How about Gaff sits out until AB back on the park, then his 8 week suspension starts?
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Raglan Matt, Derby12 said You Beaut