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Grub Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #1

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Some talk of trialling new laws this season in games where the 8 is not affected. See the AwFL website.
Gil reckons no threat to the integrity of the game. For Clive’s sake, what about finishing order and draft picks to say nothing about possible betting implications.
Jeez - once you are out of contention you are deemed expendable it would seem.
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Eventually Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #2

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I think in our case this would be very thought provoking to see. How it effected our ball movement and countered Rolyball would be very telling - bring it on!
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Drubbing Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #3

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He has no idea of what integrity actually means. None.

To the AFL it's a corporate buzzword to toss out there when you want to sound like you thought things through and you know what you are doing.

They are reactive, inconsistent, dictatorial, and regularly display disregard for many aspects of the game, its clubs and supporters, in the never ending pig trough of revenue and profits.
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Morgan Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #4

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I actually don’t think there’s too much wrong with the game. Get two good teams on the park on a decent day, and you’re going to see some good football. The public at large just has much more exposure to bad teams than it used to, there are dozens of media organisations searching for content, and a discussion about the ‘state of the game’ after one particularly boring game is an easy way to fill airspace without the need for insight or analysis.

But, these narratives gain traction. The problem the AFL faces is that its success is underpinned by broadcasters - who aren't happy - and it's almost impossible to determine how a rule change will affect the game. If you're looking at something like addressing congestion, you can't even trial it at WAFL level or in the pre-season because so much of the issue is caused by the fitness of the players.

I don't see the problem with an in-season trial in, say the Freo v Carlton game. It might be the most interesting and memorable thing about the game. As far as integrity of the draft goes, we have an uneven fixture and have incentivised teams to lose games for picks, so I’m not sure a rule tweak for one game makes any difference to the integrity of the sport. .
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FDB Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #5

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On the contrary, a rule change tweak will provide a handy excuse for a well-timed loss. Bring it on indeed.
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shane Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #6

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Trialling rules on teams who are possibly tanking doesn't seem like it's going to produce accurate data.
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FDB Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #7

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Maybe everyone could pinky-swear to try their hardest?

Preseason trials suffer from a similar problem. Nobody cares about the result.

I say all trials of new rules should be in the GF.
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Awake Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #8

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The beauty of satire, Titus nails it again, clearly and squirm worthy:
www.titusoreily.com/afl/afl-football-ope...e-hocking-chats-fans
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Walter the baker Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #9

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Morgan nailed it when he/she writes
“The problem the AFL faces is that its success is underpinned by broadcasters”
So what is the main driver for broadcasters - ratings and, more importantly, advertising time. A high intensity game that might be a nail biter with close scores might rate but it’s of no value to the broadcaster who has few opportunities to run ads after a goal. As the head of Channel 7 recently said, the most important 30 seconds of the game occurs after a goal. So, firstly they need to be convinced that the game is broken and the media is doing there best to whip this up into a cataclysmic issue. Then they need the AFL to propose solutions which will provide more goals and more 30 second ad opportunities. We’re just puppets in the process. In 10 years time we won’t recognise the game (then again, the game is nothing like it was 10 years ago ...)
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goodie Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #10

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I have to admit that I hate seeing 30 players around the ball, but it is odd how it took Friday night viewer numbers falling off a cliff before the afl suddenly spring into action. It has been going on for a long time now.
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darthmarto Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #11

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I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

The AFL is a compromised competition in almost every aspect, from the fixtures, to the number of six day breaks, the amount of travel, the great imbalance in free kicks to the power and influence some clubs wield off the field.

Might as well have different rules across the same weekend.

This thing has been coming for a while, I reckon the tipping point was BT's monologue about the state of the game during the budgies v bulldogs on the weekend. That would have caught quite an audience back in Victoria on Sunday evening.
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Drubbing Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #12

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Morgan's premise that two good teams on a good day make good footy, is a sound one.

Trouble is, there are plenty of not good teams (ours included) that play together on bad days. Weather wise and otherwise.

Twas always thus. But in bygone years, only the good uns got TV time. That's long since changed, and the AFL would have footy on 7 days a week if it could, and occasionally, has almost managed it.

But the AFLs answer to footy it doesn't like is rules engineering, which either achieves nothing, or has the opposite effect. They don't learn from the bleedin obvious because they are corporate numpties, obsessed with 'growth', 'TV spectacle' and ticket sales.
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shane Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #13

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Trialling rules is a waste of time anyway. No one adapts to the new rule in a trial.

I'd just find the best 5 assistant coaches in the league, put them in a room together and get them to work out how all the ways they'd exploit each rule change.
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Freo66 Trialling New Laws 5 years 9 months ago #14

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Nah, the assistants wouldn't wont to show their hand.

I would find the most recent half dozen sacked/retired coaches and assistant coaches and get them to pick apart each rule change because that's is what the current coaches will do as soon as they are introduced.
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