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larkin Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #15

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Fremantle could show a little intent by all wearing #43 in the warm up.
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larkin Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #16

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If Cameron Sutcliffe stood up Matera might slip off the end of the bench. But hey I'm tipping Matera to kick three players and two goals.
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Raglan Matt Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #17

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Larkin, will that be enough to get Peel over the line. I can't see the point in taking Johnno, a plane trip before a game is the last thing he needs.
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Docker by the Sea Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #18

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McCarthy obviously did enough. What has Tucker done to deserve a recall.
Materas game last week was his worst since coming across and worthy of being dropped. I am also a fan of Grey so wouldn’t mind if this change was made. To his credit when he did drop back to the WAFL he responded with a best on ground performance.
Obviously Dockerlanders have made up their minds on Matera he will struggle to turn this around once the filter is in place. Must be great for a player to pick a club and receive such a warm welcome. Kersten would be equally wrapped. Pretty harsh to mark a persons card after so few games.
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Jezza Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #19

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The tyranny of travel. Factor that in and you’ll realise that not all players from opposing clubs have settled in when coming home. Hamling and Wilson are the exceptions. Matera was identified as Ballas’s Replacement. Cammac,only 23, will become the player we know he can be. HB, after 3 years just might be turning the corner after a tumultuous career. I see plenty of upside in our list, that are still very young.
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Bizkit Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #20

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You make it sound like Matera hasn't had a chance to show what he can do. He's 26, played more than 100 games and spent 8 years on the Gold Coast where he struggled to have much of an impact and has now spent almost a full season at Freo doing the same if not worse.

He has received as much opportunity as you could possibly get and yet he has struggled to get a kick in the forward half. His disposal has been poor with far too many turn overs or useless possessions, he is horrible in contested situations, invariably losing the footy and hasn't been able to kick goals or even lay tackles. I'm not sure what the basis is for keeping him in the team but you have to do something well to earn a spot. Even Sheridan can at least run all day.
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Raglan Matt Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #21

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You've been saying that since Stephan Hill was 18, Jezza, meanwhile we still do the same thing. I have just watched the Nyoongar Magic DVD, and it makes me cry to see the way the Hills, Walters and co are forced to play now, compared to what they can do.
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Morgan Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #22

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What about the HIlls' and Walters' games do you think is being restricted? As far as I can tell, S Hill spent his whole career running up and down the wing, taking players on and having shots at goal when he gets a chance. The only thing that has ever restricted him is a hard tag and some injuries.

Lyon's instruction to B Hill seems to be 'run around and do what you feel like'. I think he's probably a better player for us than Hawthorn - he gets 5 more disposals a game for us than he did with the Hawks and won a B&F.
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Raglan Matt Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #23

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Well, Morgan they are not restricted in getting the footy, that would be next to impossible. What is restricted, however is their options once they get it. Stop, backwards or sideways, not running full blast and firing a 50 meter pass to a forward leading at them and 35 out. Which is their strength. Same with Wilson and Ryan.
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Jezza Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #24

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Speaking of S. Hill and Fyfe for that matter, skinny kids when they came to the club. But different types of players. Hill was never going to be an inside mid, though his physique now suggest otherwise. With Matera, he was drafted as those priority 17 year olds, who really hasn’t be coached well. I think his better games are ahead of him, pretty much like Phil Matera. Stay tuned folks, there’s a few more gears to go in Freo’s engine.
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shane Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #25

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This is me getting to the end of a Jezza post.
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Morgan Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #26

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I get where you're coming from, but I also think you may be remembering the past with rose coloured glasses. 30 years ago, for example, B Hill would be typecast and stuck in a forward pocket and then dropped when people figured out he's not a great kick.

S Hill would probably have been hard tagged, scragged, racially vilified on the field and subjected to verbal abuse from across the fence, and probably lambasted for 'going walkabout' because he couldn't shake a tag while playing injured.

That's not to say today is better - Bradley can't jump a line at a rubbish nightclub without it being packpage news, but I reckon not having a forward to kick to from time to time probably isn't in the top 10 things that determines if these blokes enjoy playing football.
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Raglan Matt Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #27

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Morgan, I think it is one the great myths of the last few years that B Hill can't kick. Give him a target 40-50 meters down the ground and he will find it most times. It is when he has to kick short and gets caught in 2 minds he struggles. As does Mundy and quite a few others at Freo.

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Morgan Teams: Essendon v Fremantle 5 years 9 months ago #28

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I tend to agree RM. Kicking accurately over a long distance is hard, and other than D Pearce most players get the benefit of the doubt on some of those. B Hill is no worse than most for long kicking. But his kicking over 25m is probably close to the worst in the team, which is a problem because that's a lot of his kicks, and his kick-to handball ratio is probably as high as anyone in the team. It's like the shorter the kick, the more likely it is to fall short.

But sometimes really good players have a little quirk in their game. Walters, for example, seems incapable of taking an easy mark on a lead. Fyfe is a shaky kick from 30m set shot. Johnno was a beautiful kick, but his bad kicks were absolute shockers. Sometimes you've just to live with the bad, and try not to focus on it.
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