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mac Prior 5 years 11 months ago #1

mac
After viewing yesterdays game I don't reconize the game I played from 1968 to 1992.
The coach would yell in your face " Be first to the ball!" "Be in front and the ump will look after you!"
Yesterday Alex Pearce looked at the ball then placed a finger tip on the ball as his right arm was being pinned behind him and it was called a free kick against him. You can't have the desire to put both hands on the ball because thats proir.
The number of marks not paid to the player in front is become the norm.
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shane Prior 5 years 11 months ago #2

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The "reward the tackler" lobby are too powerful.
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Raglan Matt Prior 5 years 11 months ago #3

Raglan Matt
The "reward any tackler not in a purple/white Guernsey" brigade are too powerful.
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Raglan Matt Prior 5 years 11 months ago #4

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Not sure if that was the same incident, don't think so as the Freo player penalized for holding the arm of the opponent, the umpires angle showed the Tiger player with a handful of jumper holding Pearce down. Pearce was behind in that one, right half forward for Tigers on far side of the ground,.
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DS Prior 5 years 11 months ago #5

DS
I thought this was going to be about our assistant coach.
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rogerrocks Prior 5 years 11 months ago #6

rogerrocks
There does seem to be an inconsistency where if you have the ball in both arms, you just hold it to your body, and its a ball up. But if you have it in one arm and your other arm is held, you get called for not disposing of it. So if you want to take possession, grab it with both hands.
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Raglan Matt Prior 5 years 11 months ago #7

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RR, I saw plenty of "let it fall off 1 hand" over the last 2 weeks, very little of it was penalized.
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Docker by the Sea Prior 5 years 11 months ago #8

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The rules for incorrect disposal and holding the ball are a train wreck.
Players are tackling a player before he takes possesion.
Pushing in the back in the act of tackling.
Diving forward to draw the free kick.
Players are initiating high contact by engaging the tackler as opposed to avoiding the tackler
Players are dropping the ball, it is being called jarred loose
Players are bracing for the tackle rather than disposing of the footy, prior opportunity is not called.

In the last week I have started to think differently to generally held belief that the game is better with less free kicks. I watch football and rarely the replay shows that a free kick was incorrect. We as supporters routinely don’t complain about the free kicks paid but the ones that are missed based upon precedent set by other decisions given.
I am beginning to believe that high free kick counts may in fact be beneficial to the game, pay them all. Commentary should switch from whether or not the free kick was there to why was that not a free kick. I think harder officiating of the rules may even help to open up the game as there is nothing better in the game to players on their bike and spreading than a player with a clean posssesion from a contested situation.
From 1993 this figure averages less than 23 ff per game per team, really closer to 20, prior to that 26 and up much higher as you go further back in history. Truth is I preferred footy in these eras compared to current footy even accounting for the fact that today’s footballers are full time professional. Don’t change the rules just enforce the rules that are there when they are infringed.
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okeedokee Prior 5 years 11 months ago #9

okeedokee
And be bloody consistent about it.

I'm fed up with these lazy last quarters by the umps.
Like the commentators say " the umpire has put the whistle away." They may get the sick of the taste. Well carry two of the damn things.
So what if a team is getting smashed like we were on Sunday. That's no excuse for knocking off work early when you think the outcome is inevitable. Do your job proper umpires right to the final siren.
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rogerrocks Prior 5 years 11 months ago #10

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Free kicks are just another part of the game that we should train for. If we consistently lost the tackle count, or the contested possessions, or the contested marks by the margin which we lose the free kicks by, we'd do something about it. I can whinge all I like about the umps not being fair, but in the end we need to play the game to win the free kicks. Treat it as just another skill that we need to be good at.
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mac Prior 5 years 11 months ago #11

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Richmond players were pushing the ball with two hands into team mates hands. If the palms were up it would be classed throwing the ball. Which they did several times and got away with it. Richmond reminds me of Hawthorn several years ago when they brought in little clever things such as the shepard on the man on the mark when the ump yells play on.
The new one on the block is letting the ball go out of bounce when you are standing over it. The video has been deleted on YouTube buts there's a article with headline "It was as deliberate as it gets, but Shaw was smart enough to avoid the free kick."
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Raglan Matt Prior 5 years 11 months ago #12

Raglan Matt
Careful DBTS, I have been saying that for quite a few years now, and have been howled down every time I have brought it up. But I will say it again. If the umpires umpired to the rule book, free kicks would go up until the coaches realized the umpires are serious about enforcing the rules, and then the coaches would force their players to play to the rules, resulting in a reduction in free kick numbers. Another benefit of this would be a huge reduction in the number of around the ground ball-up's, which will not please most coaches, because stoppages are where they think they show their "tactical genius".
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