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TOPIC: Ross

Noddy Ross 5 years 11 months ago #323

Noddy
What statement or outcome were you after?
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Wizard33 Ross 5 years 11 months ago #324

Wizard33
An arrogant press conference that to me was daring anyone else to come forward if you think you have a case.

Hearing Alcock drone on registered why there's an issue from the top down.

I'm absolutely bemused by the apathy. I'm very disalousitioned, frustrated and pretty angry. Until we demand higher standards that are real and not corporate dribble, we're pissing in the wind of AFL success.

Feel very sorry for our playing group right now, they've been let down badly.
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The_Yeti Ross 5 years 11 months ago #325

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Well, Noddy, it would have been better for the club to acknowledge that an employee had suffered and that steps had been taken to not only provide some remedy but to ensure that it couldn't happen again.

That provides some validation for the person's position and acknowledges their very real situation.

But 'take it to AFL because we are not going to say anything' might cut it for some but I think if you have any sense of integrity it falls short of the mark.
Egurls Suck!
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hypen Ross 5 years 11 months ago #326

hypen
Can't we just put this all behind us and get back to what we do best - playing attacking free flowing football?
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moodindigo Ross 5 years 11 months ago #327

moodindigo
There's no elephant in the room. Ross said or was accused of saying something unsavoury. A complaint was made. The matter was mediated. The parties agreed on how to resolve it and to keep it confidential. So now they can't talk about it. What alternative do you (and Basil) prefer? That Ross tell us all about it from his perspective? "I said X to someone at the club pissup. Her name is X. She was upset. Fair enough, although we agree to disagree about how bad it was. She agreed not to sue the club in exchange for $X. The lawyers recommended it, so I let the cobblers do the cobbling." How would that help anyone, least of all the poor woman involved?
The Board is satisfied there is no further action required. Unless we (as outsiders who know nothing of the facts) are accusing Andrea Hall, Sue Murphy and Colleen Hayward of some sort of sexual harassment cover-up then perhaps we restrict our Ross-bashing to the subject of losing by 77 points to Richmond. We all witnessed that.
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guy smiley Ross 5 years 11 months ago #328

guy smiley
Let's assume the board knew about all of this at the time, then?
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freo00 Ross 5 years 11 months ago #329

freo00
So that's it , is it all done and dusted is it ?
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FFC246 Ross 5 years 11 months ago #330

FFC246
How do we know she was a willing participant in the NDA? It could be she felt isolated and felt that it was her only choice. What he did is not acceptable from any leader of any organisation.
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moodindigo Ross 5 years 11 months ago #331

moodindigo
Who knows, Guy? They certainly know about it now. It's all the assuming that I don't like. When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME.
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moodindigo Ross 5 years 11 months ago #332

moodindigo
Agreed FFC246. But the point is we don't know.
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purple mao Ross 5 years 11 months ago #333

purple mao
Surprised by the amount of puritan hand-wringing and self-centred 'the club has let me down' posts in this thread.

I'm sure we'll continue to have fun with the Ross Lyon 'bad pick up line' jokes for a while yet, but in time I think we'll see this for the massive media beat-up it was.
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purplepower Ross 5 years 11 months ago #334

purplepower
If true.....a man that follows a pregnant woman around saying "I like your budding boobs" is not a noble man.
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Mike Ross 5 years 11 months ago #335

Mike
What are the actual facts that are available? Guy, you have alluded to a six-figure sum - where has that information come from? I have read somewhere about a low, five-figure sum - but I have no way of knowing if that information is reliable or total speculation. The difference between the two is financially signicant; it also carries very different implications. A low, five-figure sum could, for example, simply be a quick and easy way to terminate the employment of someone who was not up to the task. We don't know, because we don't have the facts.

Maybe if the club decides to take steps to seek redress for the breach of the agreement that was struck we will have more facts. Until then, though, this discussion is bizarre - many people on here quite rightly point out that media opinion is often misinformed and always contrived. A significant number of those same people are, however, now telling me that I should believe what has been written or spoken about by the media? It is inconsistent.

By all means people should criticise the club for factual matters - team performance, the number of people who show up to games, the inability to formally introduce 'Alcock' in the club statement, etc - but I just find it odd that suddenly I should start listening to people who have always held the Fremantle Football Club in contempt.
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Flag_2005 Ross 5 years 11 months ago #336

Flag_2005
Since when did the complainant say the investigation was a sham?
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