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TOPIC: A joke!!

PurpleMom A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #57

PurpleMom
Pretty sure the eagle was that Dog Masten.
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Mushroom A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #58

Mushroom
It was Langdon and yes, the slop merchant was masten.

And he’ll be looked at.

But he got the free kick for being flung off his dog act.

m.afl.com.au/video/2018-04-29/is-masten-...uble-for-this-action
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The Prince A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #59

The Prince
the umpires were fine, there were plenty of close calls and they usually got it right (not always of course). You just feel gipped because you are seeing it through your own prism.
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Mushroom A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #60

Mushroom
Tee hee. On ya, Louis! You silly thing, you.
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okeedokee A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #61

okeedokee
The umps made sure we were kept in a prism.
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purplepower A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #62

purplepower
I think there was a couple of poor decisions against us....but complaining about the umps won't get us anywhere I still like to believe we're a no excuses football club
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rogerrocks A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #63

rogerrocks
But how in the world could any umpire call play on after McCarthy's mark? Does anyone think that a call of play on would have been made if JK had marked like that? Of course not.
If you exclude that moment of weirdness, and the whole second quarter, then the umpiring was substandard but fair.
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freoboy49 A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #64

freoboy49
Players have accountability — not just within closed walls of the club, but we are shown every possible stat for each player.
We, the poor plebs who pay buckets of dosh to watch a competition that is (hypothetically speaking) fairly adjudicated, do not have access to the accountability measures applied to the officials. Let's start by thinking about the boundary umpires — in the last season and a bit, we have seen balls clearly out of play that are not detected. If they are genuinely unsighted, I can forgive just a little.
As for the three highest paid officials, what I would like to know is, for each umpire, these stats:
i. how many frees given to each team by each umpire
ii. in what positions on the field (F50, D50 and midfield) was each free given by each umpire
iii. at what time of the match was each free given
iv. in each of i.-iii., how many of the decisions were either incorrect or marginal
v. how many frees were not awarded to each team by each umpire
vi. in what positions on the field (esp F50 and D50) were frees not awarded
vii. at what time of the match was was an identifiable or marginal free not given
These can all be analysed against the state of the game (score, momentum) at the time of each event/non-event.
Champion Data would have a field day with that lot, and I'm pretty sure that many of these i.-vii. are already identified by the umpire observers at each match.

Okay, so it will be Kingdom Come before we, the plebs, will be given access to this information, because the AFL doesn't want to give any idea that there are inherent weaknesses in the system. A few token 'this was right'/'this was wrong' analyses on Monday after the round will keep us all at bay.
So, giving up hope on that level of public accountabilty, I have a much more practical suggestion.

In addition to the observed errors, such as the ones described earlier in this thread, we have our very clear perceptions of inherent bias/incompetence/inefficiency for two of today's umpires.
This will be remedied if neither Margetts nor Dalgleish is allocated any game in which Fremantle or West Coast plays — let 'em do the Basil/Dennis trick and fly East each week.
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cletus, rogerrocks, okeedokee, Noddy, Raglan Matt said You Beaut

Drubbing A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #65

Drubbing
Why would you want to run with a marketing line from Lyon? It's completely meaningless. It simply allows Lyon not to say what he really thinks at pressers.

Umps poor/biased/missed decisions turn close games. This was was one them. The prior/no prior rule was heavily on one teams ledger.

Another factor was Lyon's inability to tell them to stop kicking it long up the wing to McGovern, and not putting a man on him permanently.
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purplepower A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #66

purplepower
Freoboy 49, if we applied some accountability criteria on the Fremantle manegment we might get more results
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Mike A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #67

Mike
I thought it was overall a very good game; both teams did a lot right, we lost because we missed a couple of key opportunities, while they turned three or four very slim chances into goals. We also really missed Michael Walters, particularly as the game went on. It was unquestionably the game of the round.

But unfortunately - once again - the umpires were not up to the task. This has been the case for the Derby far too often, and it needs to be addressed. The sport should not be officiated in such a way as to make the people watching wonder whether or not it is real.
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Crowleymonkeyboy A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #68

Crowleymonkeyboy
There was a lot of terrible umpiring decisions against us today, but the slime had a lot more space and time than we ever did. Their pressure was constant, whereas we allowed them to spread and play on their terms. They also take better contested marks.
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Jezza A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #69

Jezza
Hey Prince are you the slime bloke behind me at the city end who I nearly knocked his head off. We might have played shite, but I take issue with the looking through the prism bit. We always knew when Margetts and co got the job, that it was going to be tough. But fair suck of the sav, that’s bordering on inciting a riot.
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Quasimodo A joke!! 6 years 2 weeks ago #70

Quasimodo
Margetts and to an even greater extent Dalgleish were a joke. The free kick count to half time was disgraceful, after that they evened up but most were in situations to cause least harm to their team the Eagles.

It's time for a stand we have got tge medal changed. We need to have neutral non wa umps at Derbys. Whilst these two quislings continue to umpire our games it makes a mockery of the competition.

It was a dusgraceful exhibition of parochial umpiring and it needs to stop.
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